Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 90

In a message dated 05/01/2006 20:17:28 GMT Standard Time,
grimmetttim@... writes:

What are the collective thoughts of what a "Caesar" rule would look like?

Watch your back mate might be a good start.

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Derek Downs · Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 163

In a message dated 1/5/2006 4:17:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
greg.regets@... writes:
Well, if Hannibal gets free stuff, then you would think Publius
Cornelius Scipio Africanus would get it ... based on the rules of
scoreboard alone!!!!!
There are a lot of generals out there that may warrant special rules.

I would just like all these free things in all these lists to be paid for.

I love tournaments in that everyone is supposed to have equal points at the
start.

Why should I have an army whose HTW takes the minus for facing pike while my
opponent gets a whole list of free Macedonian perks?

It is not fair in a tournament setting. People can do what they want at home
but an "equal" start at tournaments is another thing.

Derekcus

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Derek Downs · Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 163

In a message dated 1/5/2006 4:53:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JonCleaves@... writes:
no horse too dead!! let us all feast upon his carcass!!
If you like. Will you be addressing this before this year's Warrior NICT?

Derekcus

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joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

In a message dated 1/5/2006 16:45:43 Central Standard Time,
greg.regets@... writes:

So, you picked Hannibal, but didn't pick the guy that kicked
Hannibal's a$$ ... using tactical innovations to do it?

That's almost funny ... Wink

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Somewhat akin to the 10000 games where Nappy gets the rules and Wellington
does not...

For the same reasons.

Jon

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joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

In a message dated 1/5/2006 17:05:28 Central Standard Time,
darnd022263@... writes:

Will you be addressing this before this year's Warrior NICT?>>
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addressing what?

Please don't tell me you are about to ask us to cost out list
rules....again...

Jon

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Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 90

In a message dated 05/01/2006 22:18:32 GMT Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:

Another Ceasar rule might be that
using Ceasar allows the Ceasar player to be the only one to say what
happened in the battle afterwards, so that even a loss can be
described to competition organisers as a win!

Or he could just make up any rules he likes.

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joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

In a message dated 1/5/2006 17:20:18 Central Standard Time,
cstevecarroll@... writes:

Another Ceasar rule might be that
using Ceasar allows the Ceasar player to be the only one to say what
happened in the battle afterwards, so that even a loss can be
described to competition organisers as a win!>>
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The above rule is already in use by many players on this group...............

;)

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Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 90

In a message dated 05/01/2006 22:36:02 GMT Standard Time, JonCleaves@...
writes:

For those of you who are new, we did consider a number of potential leaders.
We were basically faced with the choice of not doing it, recognizing 2-3 or
recognizing 20+. We chose 2-3.

Leader x-rules and options will be a major topic once we get the rules done.

Jon

I see in the latest version of DBMM
_http://www.phil-barker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DBMM.doc_
(http://www.phil-barker.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/DBMM.doc) that they have several
dozen Generals
listed, both those rated Brilliant and those rated Inert. Guess which category
Caesar falls into!

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Derek Downs · Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 163

In a message dated 1/5/2006 6:13:51 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JonCleaves@... writes:

Please don't tell me you are about to ask us to cost out list
rules....again...
No. I am just asking if this is how it is going to be for the 2006 NICT or
will something be done before then? Please just answer the question without
whining ..... again.....

Derek

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Tim Grimmett · Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: Caesar X-rule

Warrior has provisions for Hannibal and Alexander, but none for Julius.

What are the collective thoughts of what a "Caesar" rule would look like?

Who else are we overlooking?

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Greg Regets · Imperator Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 2988

Well, if Hannibal gets free stuff, then you would think Publius
Cornelius Scipio Africanus would get it ... based on the rules of
scoreboard alone!!!!!

Now, as a more "useful" suggestion, how about the Early Byzantine army -
you are allowed one element of beautiful, yet treacherously illustious
women, with a stack of small golden coins. They get to roll the coins
across the table, and every unit they hit is removed from the game.

Then again ... we could just let the play of the players be the judge
of the quality of the general. ;-)

Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 19

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
wrote:
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> Warrior has provisions for Hannibal and Alexander, but none for
Julius.
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> What are the collective thoughts of what a "Caesar" rule would
look like?
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> Who else are we overlooking?
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> Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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A Ceasar rule might be that all his opponents are not allowed to
move until he has built fortifications around them!

Chris

joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

no horse too dead!! let us all feast upon his carcass!!

-----Original Message-----
From: darnd022263@...
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 16:46:53 EST
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Caesar X-rule

In a message dated 1/5/2006 4:17:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
greg.regets@... writes:
Well, if Hannibal gets free stuff, then you would think Publius
Cornelius Scipio Africanus would get it ... based on the rules of
scoreboard alone!!!!!
There are a lot of generals out there that may warrant special rules.

I would just like all these free things in all these lists to be paid for.

I love tournaments in that everyone is supposed to have equal points at the
start.

Why should I have an army whose HTW takes the minus for facing pike while my
opponent gets a whole list of free Macedonian perks?

It is not fair in a tournament setting. People can do what they want at home
but an "equal" start at tournaments is another thing.

Derekcus

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joncleaves · Moderator Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447

A Caesar rule *might* be in Siege Warrior.... ;)

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From: Christopher Webber <sitalkes@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 05 Jan 2006 21:52:47 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Caesar X-rule

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
wrote:
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> Warrior has provisions for Hannibal and Alexander, but none for
Julius.
>
> What are the collective thoughts of what a "Caesar" rule would
look like?
>
> Who else are we overlooking?
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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A Ceasar rule might be that all his opponents are not allowed to
move until he has built fortifications around them!

Chris

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Recruit Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 19

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
wrote:
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> Warrior has provisions for Hannibal and Alexander, but none for
Julius.
>
> What are the collective thoughts of what a "Caesar" rule would
look like?
>
> Who else are we overlooking?
>
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>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Hannibal rated Pyrrhus the best general of his time. Some others
might include Belisarius, maybe Frederick Barbarossa (he has to roll
for death every time he crosses a river!), Bohemond, Epaminondas...
there are lots of possibilites. Another Ceasar rule might be that
using Ceasar allows the Ceasar player to be the only one to say what
happened in the battle afterwards, so that even a loss can be
described to competition organisers as a win!

Chris

Chris