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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 11:35 am Post subject: Cav unit sizes |
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This snippet from one of Ewan's posts:
No, no. That's not what I said. The cav are great - just hugely
expensive, and one has to take so many of them (something like 8 or 9
units; I think that I was at 800-odd points on just those 16-18 elements
of troops) before even looking at the rest of the list.
(end quote)
So is the accepted view that only a moron would take cavalry in units larger
than two elements?
John Meunier
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 11:51 am Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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To the Group,
I strongly disagree with the notion that cavalry units of more than two
elements are a waste. I have been fighting Sarmations (Iazyges) and the
Turks (Blue) successfully for years. Both armies are a mixture of 18 fig
HC/L/B and 16 fig LC/B. One just has to accept that CAV is a state of mind!
Oh by the way to para-phase, "If you ain't CAV you ain't".
Jamie Gentry
Phantom Raider 6
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 12:58 pm Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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I agree with Jamie ... I run the Knights of St. John and some other list that
are EHK and SHK blocks of 4E that is so I can have the punching power but
also have the staying power from missle shots...I agree with peolpe like Jon
that say that they can be very hard to manuver but that the options you have
to weight out to find out if it is good option.
What I can't accept is that a option that dosn't work for someone to be
wrong or broken, by that statment you can say someone taking 10E infantry
units that are non P or LTS armed are not using there list to the best of
there abilities.
And The Quote of the day should be "if you aint Armor you aint" end quote I
think its the "Old Man" syndrome setting in. (ROFL.)
Shawn Blevins
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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Shawn,
Don't worry, someday you may be able to get rid of the training wheels on
your sabers! Even I had to pay my dues in a Tank Battalion before I got to
the Real CAV (Regimental that is). If you ain't CAV you ain't.
Jamie Gentry
Phantom Raider 6
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Ewan McNay Moderator


Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 2778 Location: Albany, NY, US
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 scribblerjohn@... wrote:
> This snippet from one of Ewan's posts:
> No, no. That's not what I said. The cav are great - just hugely
> expensive, and one has to take so many of them (something like 8 or 9
> units; I think that I was at 800-odd points on just those 16-18 elements
> of troops) before even looking at the rest of the list.
>
> (end quote)
>
> So is the accepted view that only a moron would take cavalry in units larger
> than two elements?
No; that's too much of an over-generalisation.
However, in the case of regular high-morale loose order cav, I think that
two-element units are generally worth in command points what you gain in
flexibility.
E
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Posted: Sat Aug 24, 2002 8:02 pm Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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Yeah,
Just remember that 2/7th Cav is Infantry.
When the going gets tough, the Cav just leaves the infantry to clean
up the mess!
Scott T.
At 10:08 AM -0400 8/24/02, JamieWGIII@... wrote:
>Shawn,
>
> Don't worry, someday you may be able to get rid of the training wheels on
>your sabers! Even I had to pay my dues in a Tank Battalion before I got to
>the Real CAV (Regimental that is). If you ain't CAV you ain't.
>
>Jamie Gentry
>Phantom Raider 6
>
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Chris Bump Legate

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:29 am Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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In a message dated 08/27/2002 9:49:39 PM Central Daylight Time,
jwilkinson62@... writes:
<< Hmmm.... All this Army inter-branch bravado does not
change the fact that we ALL were and are support for
"The Queen of Battle- Infantry!" But I guess I'll
throw my former branch hat into the ring and note that
they Don't call the Artillery the "King of Battle" for
nothing! LOL!
Kelly Wilkinson
>>
Thats right, and don't you forget what the king does to the queen as often
and whenever he so wants. There is no questioning that the branch that has
and by all those querried will continue to produce the majority of flag
officers is that of the red leg. Infantry are necesary to occupy terrain,
occasionally defend it and otherwise keep the bad guys off of the truly
important folks at the ball. ;^)
Chris
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Kelly Wilkinson Dictator

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Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Cav unit sizes |
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Hmmm.... All this Army inter-branch bravado does not
change the fact that we ALL were and are support for
"The Queen of Battle- Infantry!" But I guess I'll
throw my former branch hat into the ring and note that
they Don't call the Artillery the "King of Battle" for
nothing! LOL!
Kelly Wilkinson
--- JamieWGIII@... wrote:
> Shawn,
>
> Don't worry, someday you may be able to get rid
> of the training wheels on
> your sabers! Even I had to pay my dues in a Tank
> Battalion before I got to
> the Real CAV (Regimental that is). If you ain't CAV
> you ain't.
>
> Jamie Gentry
> Phantom Raider 6
>
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