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In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
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Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly. Are
cavalry moving through brush disordered, and if they are still in the
brush when charging, do they then have two causes of disorder (1-
disordered from previously moving through brush 2- cavalry charging
through brush)
Chris W
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Tim Grimmett
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:46 pm Post subject: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on whether the
mounted in question is close or loose order.
Tim
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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joncleaves
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| Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order) would be
disordered by brush, even if not charging.
Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on whether the
mounted in question is close or loose order.
Tim
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:19 am Post subject: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Thanks, Jon, now I understand why the rules are written that way-
SHC and Elephants might have to take a waver test if they charge
through brush, while LC can wander through it mostly without
restriction - sounds like brush is the best Thracian terrain (it is
strange that LI have their movement reduced in brush but LC don't
though).
Chris
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
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> Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order)
would be disordered by brush, even if not charging.
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> Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
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> Jon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
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> Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
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> The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on
whether the
> mounted in question is close or loose order.
>
> Tim
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> JonCleaves@a... wrote:
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> In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
> sitalkes@e... writes:
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> Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
> disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
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5.222.
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joncleaves
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| Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Just to be clear, SHC and El would be disordered by moving in brush, but there's
no terrain that causes a waver test.
J
-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Webber <sitalkes@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 22:19:01 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: cavalry in brush
Thanks, Jon, now I understand why the rules are written that way-
SHC and Elephants might have to take a waver test if they charge
through brush, while LC can wander through it mostly without
restriction - sounds like brush is the best Thracian terrain (it is
strange that LI have their movement reduced in brush but LC don't
though).
Chris
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
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> Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order)
would be disordered by brush, even if not charging.
>
> Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
>
> Jon
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@y...>
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
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>
> Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
>
> The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on
whether the
> mounted in question is close or loose order.
>
> Tim
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> JonCleaves@a... wrote:
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> In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
> sitalkes@e... writes:
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> Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
> disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
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> Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is
5.222.
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Jon,
Does this apply to close order cav? Additionally, in a mixed order body
of SHC/EHC/HC/MC, would the body as a whole be disordered or just the close
order cav while moving through the brush if this is the case?
kelly
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: Re: cavalry in brush |
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I think that elephants are brush animals... I canīt see how brush may disorder
an animal that literally will flat the brush!!  ))
Emilio.
Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order) would be
disordered by brush, even if not charging.
Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on whether the
mounted in question is close or loose order.
Tim
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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| Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: cavalry in brush |
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Please remember, Emilio - individual elephants could trot through such terrain
with little difficulty. Its a group of them and their crew remaining effective
as a 'formation' that is the issue.
Jon
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From: EMILIO MOSKOWICH <escalat@...>
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Sent: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:25:26 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: Re: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
I think that elephants are brush animals... I canīt see how brush may disorder
an animal that literally will flat the brush!! ))
Emilio.
Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order) would be
disordered by brush, even if not charging.
Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on whether the
mounted in question is close or loose order.
Tim
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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| Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 6:33 pm Post subject: Re: Re: cavalry in brush |
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OK, Jon, it was only an idea )
Please remember, Emilio - individual elephants could trot through such terrain
with little difficulty. Its a group of them and their crew remaining effective
as a 'formation' that is the issue.
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: EMILIO MOSKOWICH <escalat@...>
To: warriorrules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:25:26 +0100 (GMT+01:00)
Subject: Re: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
I think that elephants are brush animals... I canīt see how brush may disorder
an animal that literally will flat the brush!! ))
Emilio.
Tim's right. SHC and Elephants (mounted that are close order) would be
disordered by brush, even if not charging.
Chariots cannot enter brush (rough areas).
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Grimmett <grimmetttim@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 04:46:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] cavalry in brush
Question assumes that this unit is not SHC.
The answer, I think, but Jon can confirm, changes depending on whether the
mounted in question is close or loose order.
Tim
JonCleaves@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/3/2006 19:45:42 Central Standard Time,
sitalkes@... writes:
Hi, the rules seem to imply that cavalry moving through brush are
disordered but I can't find where it says that explicitly.>>
Only if charging. It appears in several places but the first is 5.222.
Jon
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