Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Rob Turnball]

#2
Robert Turnbull

[Chris Bump]

Jon,

I know that you have delineated the options, but what of a more simple view
of simply echeloning back so that the elements that are able to make contact
while pivoting after contact do so and all elements outside of the outer most
element making contact simply step back in a series of steps roughly
equivilent to their charge movement. This will be less un-wieldly with
smaller units, but by simply moving the most outside element his full charge
distance and stepping forward adjacent elements forward until reaching those
elements in contact you would end up with x number of elements in contact and
the remaining number echeloned back presumably to swing into contact in the
following bound. Or am I regurgitating what you are already proposing?

Chris

[Don Coon]

cncbump@... wrote:
>
> Jon,
>
> I know that you have delineated the options, but what of a more simple view
> of simply echeloning back so that the elements that are able to make contact
> while pivoting after contact do so and all elements outside of the outer most
> element making contact simply step back in a series of steps roughly
> equivilent to their charge movement.

This is what we have been attempting here in FW (as you know Chris since
we play with you). It is hazy as far as rules writting is concerned,
and we accomplish it as gentlemen. It doesnt come up much as we tend to
run lots of 1X2 bodies here.

What about this. When a body wider than 1 element charges, each element
of the body may move up to its tactical move in an attempt to reach the
enemy body (or a line extending the enemy body front). Any elements
that make contact are pivoted to conform to the enemy body (or line
extending his front). The first element that does not make contact
(with the enemy body or the line extending his front) is pivoted to be
in side edge contact with the rest of its body, but is echeloned back
20p. Each succesive element in the body that does not make contact is
echeloned bach a further 20p.

The line extending the enemy front is an important add to this concept.
If a 2X2 body with 120p charge reach is 40p from a 1X2 enemy, he should
not have to echelon because his 2nd element does not contact the enemy
(he would have reached him if he was there).

Also note that the line extending the enemies front may also be a line
extending his flank if that is the side being hit.

What this does is add a graduated penalty for long bodies. If you
charge 3 elements wide and hit with 1, your other elements will be
echeloned back 20p and 40p respectively. As a larger body misses with
more elements, the echelon will grow causing disorder. This is a
compramise between the "disordered" camp, and the "not disordered" camp.

Also note that if a body 3 or more elements wide hits with an element
other than one on the end, the echelon will form a reverse v shape, as
elements to either side of the contacting element echelon back.

Also, in subsequent bouns, echeloned elements may move up to be in line
with the contacting element(s) up to thier tactical move. The prevents
(an extremely unlikely case) a 12 element wide body contacting enemy on
one end from move the 12th element on the other end 220p in bound 2 to
catch up.

I think this is a good compramise. The penalty gets larger as the body
gets larger. 4 element wide bodies (very rare in these parts) will
almost cetainly be disordered.

The wording will need to be cleaned up and made hole proof.

This should satisfy all #2 voters, and hopefully grab the "disorder"
guys too.

Don