Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Frank Gilson]

Let's imagine 25mm, although the discussion functions with somewhat
changed numbers in 15mm.

The issue at hand is a unit approaching through a gap between two
enemy bodies. When can it do so?

We assume that it neither begins its approach, nor ends, within 40p
of any enemy body.

Assume that at least one of the enemy bodies that create the gap is
not in hand to hand combat.

First off, the gap rules state that for such a gap to be 'passable'
at all, it must be 120p wide (two elements width in 25mm.)

So, clearly, if the gap is less than 120p wide, the unit cannot
approach through at all, and we have our answer.

If the gap is at least 140p wide the unit could pass between them
and still maintain 40p distance between itself and each enemy unit.

Then our question is really what should happen if the gap is from
120p wide to 139p wide.

My personal opinion is that passing a gap during approaches should
prohibit (restrict, deny) passing through the 120p to 139p gap, but
if the approaching body does not start nor end inside 40p of any
enemy body that a 140p or wider gap should permit its passage (even
if during the approach the unit gets closer than 40p to an enemy
body.)

Frank

[Ewan McNay]

Frank Gilson wrote:

> Let's imagine 25mm, although the discussion functions with somewhat
> changed numbers in 15mm.
>
> The issue at hand is a unit approaching through a gap between two
> enemy bodies. When can it do so?
>
> We assume that it neither begins its approach, nor ends, within 40p
> of any enemy body.
>
> Assume that at least one of the enemy bodies that create the gap is
> not in hand to hand combat.
>
> First off, the gap rules state that for such a gap to be 'passable'
> at all, it must be 120p wide (two elements width in 25mm.)

No, they don't. That restriction applies only to charges. That's how we
got here . [And hence the rest of your discussion is kinda moot.]

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/8/2005 19:23:29 Central Standard Time,
franktrevorgilson@... writes:

I do find it 'ridiculous' that someone could zip a unit right
between two of mine....unless the space between them is wide enough,
which would be my fault.

Jon?




I am working on it - its my top Warrior priority. Needless to say it will
be prohibited.

Jon


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/8/2005 22:49:14 Central Standard Time,
greg.regets@... writes:

that if you
leave gaps big enough for the enemy to worm through, don't be shocked
if the worm turns out to be a rattlesnake.>>



The intent is not to have any worming through one element gaps.

Jon


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[Frank Gilson]

Yup, sadly true...ok, apply it to approaches also? Should it then
apply to counters and retirements?

I do find it 'ridiculous' that someone could zip a unit right
between two of mine....unless the space between them is wide enough,
which would be my fault.

Jon?

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Ewan McNay <ewan.mcnay@y...>
wrote:
>
>
>
> Frank Gilson wrote:
>
> > Let's imagine 25mm, although the discussion functions with
somewhat
> > changed numbers in 15mm.
> >
> > The issue at hand is a unit approaching through a gap between
two
> > enemy bodies. When can it do so?
> >
> > We assume that it neither begins its approach, nor ends, within
40p
> > of any enemy body.
> >
> > Assume that at least one of the enemy bodies that create the gap
is
> > not in hand to hand combat.
> >
> > First off, the gap rules state that for such a gap to
be 'passable'
> > at all, it must be 120p wide (two elements width in 25mm.)
>
> No, they don't. That restriction applies only to charges. That's
how we
> got here . [And hence the rest of your discussion is kinda
moot.]
>

[Greg Regets]

I can only imagine how hard this is Jon, and you have a man's work
ahead of you. :-)

Even thought we alternate move in Warrior, it's the sort of game that
is designed to give the flavor of simultaneous movement. It would be
somewhat troublesome to have limitations placed that would keep a
unit from going where it "wanted" to go, because units in the enemy
army got to do it's simultaneous move, before I did. (so to speak)

I kind of think however this shakes out will be ok. After all, we
have been doing it this way for years, and the planet hasn't stopped
spinning ... and then again new rules for this probably would be easy
enough to adjust to.

I guess I have always fallen back on that old thought ... that if you
leave gaps big enough for the enemy to worm through, don't be shocked
if the worm turns out to be a rattlesnake.

Peace ... g



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 11/8/2005 19:23:29 Central Standard Time,
> franktrevorgilson@h... writes:
>
> I do find it 'ridiculous' that someone could zip a unit right
> between two of mine....unless the space between them is wide
enough,
> which would be my fault.
>
> Jon?
>
>
>
>
> I am working on it - its my top Warrior priority. Needless to say
it will
> be prohibited.
>
> Jon
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
>
>
> The intent is not to have any worming through one element gaps.
>
> Jon
>


Silly thought - what if you weren't allowed to temporarily approach
within 40 paces to more than one unit simultaneously? Or maybe that
would need to be 30 paces to still allow movement through a 2 element
width gap?