Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

I'm trying to remember enough 7th as to not sound stupid when asking
Warrior questions, but here is the resulting queries:

1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if shot
for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge?

2. If so, does the unit charge shaken if the waver test fails? Or
does it cancel the charge?

Next:

3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear rank also has JLS,
does the JLS factor in if the unit has been charged?

4. Why do friendly bodies within 240 of the rear of an elephant make
it supported? Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p to
flank?

5.If my unit of RgC HI P are disordered from shooting, then are again
forced to recoil in HTH, but do not have sufficient room, are then
then to waver for not being able to disorder again?

6. A unit of 32 HI LTS/Sh is standing with a Wood 40p from it's left
flank and a unit of 6 HC L/sh within 40p of its right flank. Is it
supported? What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an enemy
within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with another unit to
front?

Just thought I'd ask :)

boyd

Well don't everyone chime in at once on this. I've found the answer
to number 5, so that should make it easier for the Warrior Scholars
to answer these riddles of the rules?
TIA

--- In WarriorRules@y..., "vercengetorix" <vercengetorix@y...> wrote:
> I'm trying to remember enough 7th as to not sound stupid when
asking
> Warrior questions, but here is the resulting queries:
>
> 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
> IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if
shot
> for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge?
>
> 2. If so, does the unit charge shaken if the waver test fails? Or
> does it cancel the charge?
>
> Next:
>
> 3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear rank also has
JLS,
> does the JLS factor in if the unit has been charged?
>
> 4. Why do friendly bodies within 240 of the rear of an elephant
make
> it supported? Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p to
> flank?
>
> 5.If my unit of RgC HI P are disordered from shooting, then are
again
> forced to recoil in HTH, but do not have sufficient room, are then
> then to waver for not being able to disorder again?
>
> 6. A unit of 32 HI LTS/Sh is standing with a Wood 40p from it's
left
> flank and a unit of 6 HC L/sh within 40p of its right flank. Is it
> supported? What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an enemy
> within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with another unit to
> front?
>
> Just thought I'd ask
>
> boyd

[Chris Bump]

Well don't everyone chime in at once on this. I've found the answer
to number 5, so that should make it easier for the Warrior Scholars
to answer these riddles of the rules?
TIA

--- In WarriorRules@y..., "vercengetorix" <vercengetorix@y...> wrote:
> I'm trying to remember enough 7th as to not sound stupid when
asking
> Warrior questions, but here is the resulting queries:
>
> 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
> IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if
shot
> for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge?

I have some experience with this one. They are not always eager as tired troops
cannot be eager. They are, however, never uneasy. If I remember correctly D's
don't test for charging, they test for being prompted to charge. So an event
that inspires a charge does not require a waiver test. Disordered charge target
has same effect.
>
> 2. If so, does the unit charge shaken if the waver test fails? Or
> does it cancel the charge?
> Troops who go shaken before the actual charge cannot by definition move closer
to any enemy and therefore cannot charge. But your above example, I believe
would not require a waiver test.
> Next:
>
> 3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear rank also has
JLS,
> does the JLS factor in if the unit has been charged?
> Are you talking about support shooting? Jls never support shoot if that is
what you are talking about. IF you are talking about hth, then the second rank
if armed with Jls would get to fight and use the Jls (+) except against those
troops who are not susceptible to JLS, SHI etc.
> 4. Why do friendly bodies within 240 of the rear of an elephant
make
> it supported? Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p to
> flank? Don't know. I doubt that there is any chance this rule would be
changed, so even if you are correct, it is strictly academic and not worth
pondering over.
>
> 5.If my unit of RgC HI P are disordered from shooting, then are
again
> forced to recoil in HTH, but do not have sufficient room, are then
> then to waver for not being able to disorder again?
>
> 6. A unit of 32 HI LTS/Sh is standing with a Wood 40p from it's
left
> flank and a unit of 6 HC L/sh within 40p of its right flank. Is it
> supported?
As long as the wood is not known to be controlled by enemy. I think ???
What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an enemy
> within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with another unit to
> front?
Don't understand the question. Are you asking about support or troop
willingness/eagerness?
> Just thought I'd ask
Hope I didn't get any of these wrong, as I will surely catch heck if I did so.

Chris

[Chris Damour]

None of us want to be placed in the agony booth. Only Jon can answer
rules questions! <<grin>>

--
Chris Damour

On Fri, 5 Apr 2002, vercengetorix wrote:

> Well don't everyone chime in at once on this. I've found the answer
> to number 5, so that should make it easier for the Warrior Scholars
> to answer these riddles of the rules?
> TIA
>
> --- In WarriorRules@y..., "vercengetorix" <vercengetorix@y...> wrote:
> > I'm trying to remember enough 7th as to not sound stupid when
> asking
> > Warrior questions, but here is the resulting queries:
> >
> > 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and back three ranks
> > IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and must charge if
> shot
> > for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to charge?
> >
> > 2. If so, does the unit charge shaken if the waver test fails? Or
> > does it cancel the charge?
> >
> > Next:
> >
> > 3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear rank also has
> JLS,
> > does the JLS factor in if the unit has been charged?
> >
> > 4. Why do friendly bodies within 240 of the rear of an elephant
> make
> > it supported? Wouldn't support for E be from units within 80p to
> > flank?
> >
> > 5.If my unit of RgC HI P are disordered from shooting, then are
> again
> > forced to recoil in HTH, but do not have sufficient room, are then
> > then to waver for not being able to disorder again?
> >
> > 6. A unit of 32 HI LTS/Sh is standing with a Wood 40p from it's
> left
> > flank and a unit of 6 HC L/sh within 40p of its right flank. Is it
> > supported? What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an enemy
> > within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with another unit to
> > front?
> >
> > Just thought I'd ask
> >
> > boyd
>
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This doesn't sound good
Seems autocratic. who are the other three horsemen
Or did they get swept down river by some majic elf

boyd


--- damourc <damourc@...> wrote:
> None of us want to be placed in the agony
> booth. Only Jon can answer
> rules questions! <<grin>>
>
> --
> Chris Damour


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This doesn't sound good
Seems autocratic. who are the other three horsemen
Or did they get swept down river by some majic elf

boyd


--- damourc <damourc@...> wrote:
> None of us want to be placed in the agony
> booth. Only Jon can answer
> rules questions! <<grin>>
>
> --
> Chris Damour


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--- cncbump@... wrote:
> > 1. If my crusade pesants are front rank IrrgA and
> back three ranks
> > IrrD, then it is a body that is always eagar and
> must charge if
> shot
> > for 2 CPF, yet waver tests as D in order to
> charge?
>
> I have some experience with this one. They are not
> always eager as tired troops cannot be eager. They
> are, however, never uneasy. If I remember correctly
> D's don't test for charging, they test for being
> prompted to charge. So an event that inspires a
> charge does not require a waiver test. Disordered
> charge target has same effect.

Ah yes promting...forgot about that murcurial dice
rolling over two bounds :)

So the pilgrims will charge if shot for 2 visa vi the
IrrA, but would not waver unles under wait order or
such and told to charge. Don't the disordered LMI
take a -1 in the charge?

Also the pilgrims would test as IrrgD if needed as a
result of combat, or does that only apply if
disordered?

> > 3. If my English marine LHI have a B and the rear
> rank also has
> JLS,
> > does the JLS factor in if the unit has been
> charged?
> > Are you talking about support shooting? Jls never
> support shoot if that is what you are talking about.
> IF you are talking about hth, then the second rank
> if armed with Jls would get to fight and use the Jls
> (+) except against those troops who are not
> susceptible to JLS, SHI etc.

Yes HTH. I seem to remember some rule...admittedly
7th and many editioins ago...where rear ranks with jls
don't count jls when receiving a charge.


> > flank? Don't know. I doubt that there is any
> chance this rule would be changed, so even if you
> are correct, it is strictly academic and not worth
> pondering over.

Just trying to figureout how my battleline will look
with all my infantry hunkered down behind E I
remember a guy, Jim Kasper maybe, who used to run some
Vietnameese/Burmeese army of E and LMI B/Jls. Aside
from them having neon green flesh, they were always
supported yet stayed on line. Perhaps the rear
support is ment to lend eagarness to the E during the
charge.


> What about when the HC charges ahead and routs an
> enemy
> > within 240p to front, and the HI in in combat with
> another unit to
> > front?
> Don't understand the question. Are you asking about
> support or troop willingness/eagerness?
> > Just thought I'd ask :)

In the subsequent bound would the HI still be eagar if
the HC were rallying forward or pusuing leaving the
right flank of the HI "unsupported".


> Hope I didn't get any of these wrong, as I will
> surely catch heck if I did so.
> Chris

Hell it's my fault for asking. I'll sit in the cooler
for you
boyd



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[scott holder]

This doesn't sound good
Seems autocratic. who are the other three horsemen
Or did they get swept down river by some majic elf

>Jon answers rules questions because that's his designated role. If
there is some true loophole, we ho's discuss it *offline* before Jon,
aka Mouth of Sauron, speaks. It's better for consistency as well.

>I answer list questions, or don't answer them as the mood takes me.
Jake answers bidness questions. Bill potentially answers lists
questions as well since he does just about as much work on em as I do.
He'll certainly want to know if you have close relations with
imporverished third world computer programmers in his effort to make an
electronic game outta Warrior.

>Another reason I didn't answer the posted questions also had to do with
the fact that upon a cursory glance, said questions are answered in the
Warrior rule book. Not answering them might encourage a
purchase:):)

Scott
List Ho

--- "> >Jon answers rules questions because that's his
> designated role. If
> there is some true loophole, we ho's discuss it
> *offline* before Jon,
> aka Mouth of Sauron, speaks. It's better for
> consistency as well.

Sounds like a press converence deflection In any
event, I'm wargaming the product at night to remember
the intricasies of movement/charge support.

>
> >I answer list questions, or don't answer them as
> the mood takes me.

Are there astrological guides as to when the oracle
might present answers more cogent than my current
onboard processor can fathom? :)


> He'll certainly want to know if you have close
> relations with
> imporverished third world computer programmers in
> his effort to make an
> electronic game outta Warrior.

I am my own impoverished third world country, but I
stopped programming with BasicC. Not much help unless
he wants a game that crashes as a major function.

>
> >Another reason I didn't answer the posted questions
> also had to do with
> the fact that upon a cursory glance, said questions
> are answered in the
> Warrior rule book. Not answering them might
> encourage a
> purchase:):)

Yes, I have a dated beta copy and am willing to spend
the hundreds of quattlos necessary to become
enlightened fully. Yet I am also in the process of
devolving from DBM think, which in itself requires
much of what is left of my reasoning ability;
afterall, moving from DBM and non-gaming back to
Warrior type gaming demands that I actually start
paying attention to said rules and understanding prior
to any tournament which may or may not be coming up on
June 26th in Jacksonville.

As for my timing on rules purchase; any financial
windfall that might be ascribed to the ration of crust
and kick in the ass I refer to as my paycheck must be
secreted from my spouse in such a manner as to
resemble--without actually being--stealing from the
mouths of my offspring. Therefore, anything other
than hand to hand transaction of currency for product
is suspect to papertrail and therefore discovery.
Discovery leads to ranting, whick leads to abstinance
from copulation, which leads to reduction in
reproduction, which returns the cycle to not complying
with the American home model of having more crap and
less time than is necessary for a healthy gaming
lifestyle.

I forgive you anyway. Who is your distributor?
Silver Eagle? Anyone else?

Boyd
skulking serf

> Scott
> List Ho



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