Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Seriously, is there a semi-official policy regarding a "native" list and
their appearance in other lists? I am talking about options for a nation in
allies and mercennaries that are not permitted in the native list. Do you
try to avoid discrepancies?
Specifically, in list #20 New Kingdom Egyptian, Irr C Sea Peoples are allowed
an upgrade to LHI, which the native Sea Peoples list does not allow. Also,
in list 15 Early Canaanite, Ugaritic, Syrian, Sea Peoples Irr B LHI are
allowed an upgrade to additional 2HCW, which are nowhere in the native list.
And in another minor complaint, I feel (which has a lower degree of certainty
than "think" or "believe") that any nation which could field chariots should
also have the option for chariot runners. After all, the maryannu were
feudally raised, and the runners would be part of the retinue of the Greeat
Man Himself.
And finally, in Fast Warrior, list 20 NKE Infantry are listed as "6E Reg C MI
JLS, Sh or LMI 2HCW, Sh." A line item with an "or". Does this allow a mixed
unit, albeit a rather bizarre one not allowed in the Biblical Warrior list?
Go ahead, slap me down for this one.

John the OFM Carroll

[scott holder]

I am talking about options for a nation in
allies and mercennaries that are not permitted in the native list. Do
you
try to avoid discrepancies?

>Very much so. In fact, that's a lot of what Bill does.

Specifically, in list #20 New Kingdom Egyptian, Irr C Sea Peoples are
allowed
an upgrade to LHI, which the native Sea Peoples list does not allow.

>The LHI upgrade reflects Sea Peoples in Egyptian employ *after* the
initial tidal wave of "immigration". There is Egyptian evidence that
shows Sea Peoples in armor during that time frame but apparently not
before. One *could* have extrapolate that armor usage backwards in time
but I did not.

Also,
in list 15 Early Canaanite, Ugaritic, Syrian, Sea Peoples Irr B LHI are
allowed an upgrade to additional 2HCW, which are nowhere in the native
list.

>Will hafta go back and reexamine that one. It might have made it thru
the "consistency filter".

And in another minor complaint, I feel (which has a lower degree of
certainty
than "think" or "believe") that any nation which could field chariots
should
also have the option for chariot runners. After all, the maryannu were
feudally raised, and the runners would be part of the retinue of the
Greeat
Man Himself.

>That is definitely one approach to the issue. It's not one I whole
heartedly agree with since the whole "chariot culture" of the period did
seem to radicaly differ from one kingdom to another and from one time
frame to another.

And finally, in Fast Warrior, list 20 NKE Infantry are listed as "6E Reg
C MI
JLS, Sh or LMI 2HCW, Sh." A line item with an "or". Does this allow a
mixed
unit, albeit a rather bizarre one not allowed in the Biblical Warrior
list?

>No, it means you must field a unit of MI or a unit of LMI. I'll see
about sticking an "all" in there at some point.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Holder, Scott <FHWA> [mailto:Scott.Holder@...]
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> Peoples!
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>
> I am talking about options for a nation in
> allies and mercennaries that are not permitted in the native list. Do
> you
> try to avoid discrepancies?
>
> >Very much so. In fact, that's a lot of what Bill does.
>
> Specifically, in list #20 New Kingdom Egyptian, Irr C Sea Peoples are
> allowed
> an upgrade to LHI, which the native Sea Peoples list does not allow.
>
> >The LHI upgrade reflects Sea Peoples in Egyptian employ *after* the
> initial tidal wave of "immigration". There is Egyptian evidence that
> shows Sea Peoples in armor during that time frame but apparently not
> before. One *could* have extrapolate that armor usage backwards in time
> but I did not.
>

OK, I buy that.


> Also,
> in list 15 Early Canaanite, Ugaritic, Syrian, Sea Peoples Irr B LHI are
> allowed an upgrade to additional 2HCW, which are nowhere in the native
> list.
>
> >Will hafta go back and reexamine that one. It might have made it thru
> the "consistency filter".
>
> And in another minor complaint, I feel (which has a lower degree of
> certainty
> than "think" or "believe") that any nation which could field chariots
> should
> also have the option for chariot runners. After all, the maryannu were
> feudally raised, and the runners would be part of the retinue of the
> Greeat
> Man Himself.
>
> >That is definitely one approach to the issue. It's not one I whole
> heartedly agree with since the whole "chariot culture" of the period did
> seem to radicaly differ from one kingdom to another and from one time
> frame to another.
>

Notice that I did not complain about Sea People's chariots not having
runners, since they are usually thought to have been acquired through "Grand
Theft Chariot." Mycenaeans, on the other hand........


> And finally, in Fast Warrior, list 20 NKE Infantry are listed as "6E Reg
> C MI
> JLS, Sh or LMI 2HCW, Sh." A line item with an "or". Does this allow a
> mixed
> unit, albeit a rather bizarre one not allowed in the Biblical Warrior
> list?
>
> >No, it means you must field a unit of MI or a unit of LMI. I'll see
> about sticking an "all" in there at some point.
>
> Scott
>
>

I was just being a Smart Ass there.

John the OFM


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