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History: Pike vs Pilum

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2002 4:38 pm    Post subject: History: Pike vs Pilum


I just returned from Origins where there were some good seminars and talks
on ancients presented. One thing that came up was the fact that a phalanx
was never defeated frontally by a legion unless it was already disordered by
terrain. Usually as Kelly mentioned they were outmaneuvered and defeated
that way. Someone suggested Pila were used to cause disorder but none of
the more knowledgable people could think of a case where that ever happened.

Anyone here have any examples?

Just curious...

James


-----Original Message-----
From: jwilkinson62 [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 7:52 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Pilum group discussion


Mr Hovey makes an excellent point here. For some arcane reason, HTW
doesn't take the -2 in hand to hand verses P or LTS and Roman
historians clearly point out that the Phalanx can only be defeated by
superior maneuver. So why the pass on taking the minus 2 from Pikes
and long spears if the Romans always were the ones being pushed back
initially? Food for thought.

Kelly

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