Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

Glad you liked it...lol


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[John Murphy]

Might have found a few items for the errata page

Maybe I have these wrong, I am not a died-in-the-wool Warrior veteran after all,
but I think they might have slipped through the cracks and you might want to
double check them anyway. I haven't read the entire book in this detail or
anything - they just
happen to be in troop types for armies I was considering morphing from leftover
figures

List 14 Komnenan Byzantine (pp. 31-35, that's right 5 pages long - I am guessing
this is the most lengthy new list for Warrior so far which partly explains why
there could be problems with it)

within Overall section...

Line for upgrading Varangians to Reg A - pts cost for irr-reg (hence adding 1
fig) doesn't take into acount wether they have JLS - s/b 14 pts LHI w/ 1 wpn, 15
pts LHI w/ 2 wpns

Line for upgrading Psiloi to RegD/IrrC - pts for Reg LMI are wrong - s/b 6 pts

within Late Period section only...

Line for upgrading general to EHK - pts are wrong - s/b 12 pts from the HC of
the overall section, not 8 pts from the EHC of the early/middle which shouldn't
apply to the later

Line for upgrading Kavallarioi to Reg C - pts if Irr C implies LC - s/b 6 pts
for Irr C MC

Given various reasons including too many complicated compulsory troop types (and
points with desired upgrades) for my simple tastes - please take it with a sense
of humor but this one probably has an "Italian pasta rule" somewhere - I decided
to look at
the shorter and much simpler Early Paleologan list instead

List 32 Early Paleologan Byzantine (pp. 66-68)

Line for giving Paramonai B - cost wrong - s/b 6 pts

Overall I think I can steal enough LC from other armies to put an enjoyable
facsimile of this one together

Those are the only Holy Warrior lists I've looked at in any detail so far

[Paul Georgian]

In a message dated 11/11/02 8:03:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
jjmurphy@... writes:

> Might have found a few items for the errata page
>
> Maybe I have these wrong, I am not a died-in-the-wool Warrior veteran after
> all, but I think they might have slipped through the cracks and you might
> want to double check them anyway. I haven't read the entire book in this
> detail or anything - they just
> happen to be in troop types for armies I was considering morphing from
> leftover figures
>
> List 14 Komnenan Byzantine (pp. 31-35, that's right 5 pages long - I am
> guessing this is the most lengthy new list for Warrior so far which partly
> explains why there could be problems with it)
>
> within Overall section...
>
> Line for upgrading Varangians to Reg A - pts cost for irr-reg (hence adding
> 1 fig) doesn't take into acount wether they have JLS - s/b 14 pts LHI w/ 1
> wpn, 15 pts LHI w/ 2 wpns
>
> Line for upgrading Psiloi to RegD/IrrC - pts for Reg LMI are wrong - s/b 6
> pts
>
> within Late Period section only...
>
> Line for upgrading general to EHK - pts are wrong - s/b 12 pts from the HC
> of the overall section, not 8 pts from the EHC of the early/middle which
> shouldn't apply to the later
>
> Line for upgrading Kavallarioi to Reg C - pts if Irr C implies LC - s/b 6
> pts for Irr C MC
>
> Given various reasons including too many complicated compulsory troop types
> (and points with desired upgrades) for my simple tastes - please take it
> with a sense of humor but this one probably has an "Italian pasta rule"
> somewhere - I decided to look at
> the shorter and much simpler Early Paleologan list instead
>
> List 32 Early Paleologan Byzantine (pp. 66-6
>
> Line for giving Paramonai B - cost wrong - s/b 6 pts
>
> Overall I think I can steal enough LC from other armies to put an enjoyable
> facsimile of this one together
>
> Those are the only Holy Warrior lists I've looked at in any detail so far.

You're right, given the length and detail of the Komnenan and Nikephorian
lists there are probably more errors, but damn, I thought I'd checked,
double-checked then triple checked the points values. As the author of all
the Byzantine lists, I take most of the heat and Scott as the list checker
takes the rest. Sorry Scotty. At any rate, I haven't gotten a copy of Holy
Warrior yet, so don't know what the final versions of the lists look like.
Please feel free to send Scott any other typos you find. When I get my copy,
I'll review it as well and get together with Scott to make any corrections.
To expound my philosophy, I felt that I needed to do a better and more
thorough job on the Holy Warrior Byzantine lists to do them justice, than I
did on the Dark Ages Warrior Byzantine lists. So as a result, they ended up
being more lengthy and complicated than I would have liked. To some specific
comments, I think for the EHK general, I did assume it was to upgrade from
the early/middle period. Probably not obvious. Your comment on the
excessive number of required troop types is probably prescient. I found this
to be a problem with the early Dark Age Byzantine lists as well after playing
in a couple of tournaments.

Paul G.


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