Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite list? I noticed
in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS. I don't remember anything about
the old WRG books, and the NASAMW lists don't have anything for them. TIA

Wanax


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[John Murphy]

I can help you with this one.

Early Hoplites 700-450 are old 6th edition Book 1 list #24

Haven't checked the NASAMW revisions to this list but if you say
there are none well so be it

I believe, could be wrong, that only the old 6th ed list is allowed
at Historicon(?) i.e. no "Huckleberry Finn lists" which I also have
if you need info

The hoplites are 69 to 200 _figs_ (this is 6th) Reg C HI LTS, Sh
with an option to give up to 180 of them them JLS or an upgrade as
Spartiates to "B" class. And that is it for early hoplites except up
to 15 can be mounted infantry.

They have mandatory javelinmen (IrC li jls, 6-4 but the other
troops are all optional shieldless jav cav, light infantry or irreg
thracian peltasts (no rhomphias).

Also you only have 8 reg & 12 irreg command factors avail.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite
list? I noticed in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS. I
don't remember anything about the old WRG books, and the NASAMW
lists don't have anything for them. TIA

Excellent John,

How many of what kinds of mounted can I get? Are they RgC LC J or RgC MC?

Are the Thracians Reg or Irreg? J/sh or any LTS? Thanks!

Wanax




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[scott holder]

Old WRG lists, Huckleberry & Clark Lists, NASAMW revisions that have NOT been
superceded by FHW lists are allowed at Hcon. Because Feudal Warrior will be
released there (or possibly some people will get their copies just beforehand),
both FeudWar lists and their equivalents will be allowed. However, after Hcon,
I'll have updated the Supercession list which will get rid of the other lists,
again, at least at events I run for NASAMW. What you do locally is your
business although I'd urge everybody to get off the other lists once an FHE list
is published. It makes it harder in a way for new people to get involved since
all they see is a plethora of list books. Again, I fully understand those of
you running LIR and such that haven't been updated yet, bear with us.

-----Original Message-----
From: jjmurphy@...
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:33 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: hoplites again and again


I can help you with this one.

Early Hoplites 700-450 are old 6th edition Book 1 list #24

Haven't checked the NASAMW revisions to this list but if you say
there are none well so be it

I believe, could be wrong, that only the old 6th ed list is allowed
at Historicon(?) i.e. no "Huckleberry Finn lists" which I also have
if you need info

The hoplites are 69 to 200 _figs_ (this is 6th) Reg C HI LTS, Sh
with an option to give up to 180 of them them JLS or an upgrade as
Spartiates to "B" class. And that is it for early hoplites except up
to 15 can be mounted infantry.

They have mandatory javelinmen (IrC li jls, 6-4 but the other
troops are all optional shieldless jav cav, light infantry or irreg
thracian peltasts (no rhomphias).

Also you only have 8 reg & 12 irreg command factors avail.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite
list? I noticed in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS. I
don't remember anything about the old WRG books, and the NASAMW
lists don't have anything for them. TIA




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[John Murphy]

Let me add then for the benefit of the guy trying to build this
army...

In the Huckleberry Finn lists the early hoplites are irregs (C with
B upgrade option) and are all LTS, JLS, Sh. Just like in Fast
Warrior. That might mean Hutchby & Clark is a better starting point
as you mind find less breakage when the FHE list come out? I don't
know.

The remaining troops (cav, li, thracians) are almost identical to
the 6th ed list.

The Early Spartans are an entirely seperate list (two lists
actually). These are a mix of RgA HI Spartiates and RgB MI Helots.
Not sure if you can mix in units. The earlier of the two Early
Spartans (700-650) must all have JLS's while the latter (650 until
the Persian wars) can not.

Spartan support troops in both lists are limited to the LI stuff, no
cav or Thracians.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Holder, Scott"
<Scott.Holder@f...> wrote:
> Old WRG lists, Huckleberry & Clark Lists, NASAMW revisions that
have NOT been superceded by FHW lists are allowed at Hcon. Because
Feudal Warrior will be released there (or possibly some people will
get their copies just beforehand), both FeudWar lists and their
equivalents will be allowed. However, after Hcon, I'll have updated
the Supercession list which will get rid of the other lists, again,
at least at events I run for NASAMW. What you do locally is your
business although I'd urge everybody to get off the other lists once
an FHE list is published. It makes it harder in a way for new
people to get involved since all they see is a plethora of list
books. Again, I fully understand those of you running LIR and such
that haven't been updated yet, bear with us.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jjmurphy@s...
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:33 AM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: hoplites again and again
>
>
> I can help you with this one.
>
> Early Hoplites 700-450 are old 6th edition Book 1 list #24
>
> Haven't checked the NASAMW revisions to this list but if you say
> there are none well so be it
>
> I believe, could be wrong, that only the old 6th ed list is
allowed
> at Historicon(?) i.e. no "Huckleberry Finn lists" which I also
have
> if you need info
>
> The hoplites are 69 to 200 _figs_ (this is 6th) Reg C HI LTS, Sh
> with an option to give up to 180 of them them JLS or an upgrade as
> Spartiates to "B" class. And that is it for early hoplites except
up
> to 15 can be mounted infantry.
>
> They have mandatory javelinmen (IrC li jls, 6-4 but the other
> troops are all optional shieldless jav cav, light infantry or
irreg
> thracian peltasts (no rhomphias).
>
> Also you only have 8 reg & 12 irreg command factors avail.
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> > Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite
> list? I noticed in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS.
I
> don't remember anything about the old WRG books, and the NASAMW
> lists don't have anything for them. TIA
>
>
>
>
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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Just wondering,
What about lists that were not included or perhaps will never be included
in the Warrior lists such as Anatolian hill tribes? I've been wanting to play
with 312 elements of Ireg E LMI JLS, Sh at Historicon for some time ()! I
think it would be a blast to have 25 or so, 12 element units that are immune to
watching their friends die filling up the table top! The ultimate trash army!

Kelly

"Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@...> wrote:
Old WRG lists, Huckleberry & Clark Lists, NASAMW revisions that have NOT been
superceded by FHW lists are allowed at Hcon. Because Feudal Warrior will be
released there (or possibly some people will get their copies just beforehand),
both FeudWar lists and their equivalents will be allowed. However, after Hcon,
I'll have updated the Supercession list which will get rid of the other lists,
again, at least at events I run for NASAMW. What you do locally is your
business although I'd urge everybody to get off the other lists once an FHE list
is published. It makes it harder in a way for new people to get involved since
all they see is a plethora of list books. Again, I fully understand those of
you running LIR and such that haven't been updated yet, bear with us.

-----Original Message-----
From: jjmurphy@...
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:33 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: hoplites again and again


I can help you with this one.

Early Hoplites 700-450 are old 6th edition Book 1 list #24

Haven't checked the NASAMW revisions to this list but if you say
there are none well so be it

I believe, could be wrong, that only the old 6th ed list is allowed
at Historicon(?) i.e. no "Huckleberry Finn lists" which I also have
if you need info

The hoplites are 69 to 200 _figs_ (this is 6th) Reg C HI LTS, Sh
with an option to give up to 180 of them them JLS or an upgrade as
Spartiates to "B" class. And that is it for early hoplites except up
to 15 can be mounted infantry.

They have mandatory javelinmen (IrC li jls, 6-4 but the other
troops are all optional shieldless jav cav, light infantry or irreg
thracian peltasts (no rhomphias).

Also you only have 8 reg & 12 irreg command factors avail.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite
list? I noticed in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS. I
don't remember anything about the old WRG books, and the NASAMW
lists don't have anything for them. TIA




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Kelly

You're stirring it up again.

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly wilkinson [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:47 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: hoplites again and again

Just wondering,
What about lists that were not included or perhaps will never be
included in the Warrior lists such as Anatolian hill tribes? I've been
wanting to play with 312 elements of Ireg E LMI JLS, Sh at Historicon for
some time ()! I think it would be a blast to have 25 or so, 12 element
units that are immune to watching their friends die filling up the table
top! The ultimate trash army!

Kelly

"Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@...> wrote:
Old WRG lists, Huckleberry & Clark Lists, NASAMW revisions that have NOT
been superceded by FHW lists are allowed at Hcon. Because Feudal Warrior
will be released there (or possibly some people will get their copies just
beforehand), both FeudWar lists and their equivalents will be allowed.
However, after Hcon, I'll have updated the Supercession list which will get
rid of the other lists, again, at least at events I run for NASAMW. What
you do locally is your business although I'd urge everybody to get off the
other lists once an FHE list is published. It makes it harder in a way for
new people to get involved since all they see is a plethora of list books.
Again, I fully understand those of you running LIR and such that haven't
been updated yet, bear with us.

-----Original Message-----
From: jjmurphy@...
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 8:33 AM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: hoplites again and again


I can help you with this one.

Early Hoplites 700-450 are old 6th edition Book 1 list #24

Haven't checked the NASAMW revisions to this list but if you say
there are none well so be it

I believe, could be wrong, that only the old 6th ed list is allowed
at Historicon(?) i.e. no "Huckleberry Finn lists" which I also have
if you need info

The hoplites are 69 to 200 _figs_ (this is 6th) Reg C HI LTS, Sh
with an option to give up to 180 of them them JLS or an upgrade as
Spartiates to "B" class. And that is it for early hoplites except up
to 15 can be mounted infantry.

They have mandatory javelinmen (IrC li jls, 6-4 but the other
troops are all optional shieldless jav cav, light infantry or irreg
thracian peltasts (no rhomphias).

Also you only have 8 reg & 12 irreg command factors avail.

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Can anyone give me some list information on the early hoplite
list? I noticed in FW list they are irreg and have JLS and LTS. I
don't remember anything about the old WRG books, and the NASAMW
lists don't have anything for them. TIA




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