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[Todd Kaeser]

Hello all, and Ed

With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't help myself to
come up with a list. I've played the previous list and really enjoyed it. I
was never overly successful with it - it had too many deficiancies, but it was a
blast to play. Ewan - I'm expecting comments - Not that you would ever run
an army like this.

Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it down - don't
worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new list and before you paint
them play with them so you can see if they are wanted/needed.

Feudal Japanese #40

CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142 (568)
2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)

Total = 1606
scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)

Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the Japanese army to
take up more space - a huge problem in the past. They also allow for force
marching to allow space to be created and you don't have to sacrifice your main
units to fatigue. The mounted element easily dismounts if there is no need for
it to 2 very servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack. The big
Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent will have to bring a
fair amount of units to take this one out and it can't be shot up very easily w/
those mantlets.

The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg A units are
nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B as I don't believe it
will be worth the points - lets face it they are not there to skirmish. The
LEHI allows the samurai player to take shooting much better.

Any thoughts??? -

Todd K

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[Todd Kaeser]

One mistake - the Ashigaru are LMI not LHI.

Oops.

Todd K

Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@...> wrote:
Hello all, and Ed

With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't help myself to
come up with a list. I've played the previous list and really enjoyed it. I
was never overly successful with it - it had too many deficiancies, but it was a
blast to play. Ewan - I'm expecting comments - Not that you would ever run
an army like this.

Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it down - don't
worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new list and before you paint
them play with them so you can see if they are wanted/needed.

Feudal Japanese #40

CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142 (568)
2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)

Total = 1606
scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)

Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the Japanese army to
take up more space - a huge problem in the past. They also allow for force
marching to allow space to be created and you don't have to sacrifice your main
units to fatigue. The mounted element easily dismounts if there is no need for
it to 2 very servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack. The big
Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent will have to bring a
fair amount of units to take this one out and it can't be shot up very easily w/
those mantlets.

The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg A units are
nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B as I don't believe it
will be worth the points - lets face it they are not there to skirmish. The
LEHI allows the samurai player to take shooting much better.

Any thoughts??? -

Todd K

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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Todd,

This list has more Velveta than any Hutchby and Clark list ever! How can
you live with yourself and play it?!?! :)

kw

Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@...> wrote:
One mistake - the Ashigaru are LMI not LHI.

Oops.

Todd K

Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@...> wrote:
Hello all, and Ed

With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't help myself to
come up with a list. I've played the previous list and really enjoyed it. I
was never overly successful with it - it had too many deficiancies, but it was a
blast to play. Ewan - I'm expecting comments - Not that you would ever run
an army like this.

Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it down - don't
worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new list and before you paint
them play with them so you can see if they are wanted/needed.

Feudal Japanese #40

CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142 (568)
2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)

Total = 1606
scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)

Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the Japanese army to
take up more space - a huge problem in the past. They also allow for force
marching to allow space to be created and you don't have to sacrifice your main
units to fatigue. The mounted element easily dismounts if there is no need for
it to 2 very servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack. The big
Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent will have to bring a
fair amount of units to take this one out and it can't be shot up very easily w/
those mantlets.

The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg A units are
nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B as I don't believe it
will be worth the points - lets face it they are not there to skirmish. The
LEHI allows the samurai player to take shooting much better.

Any thoughts??? -

Todd K

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[Todd Kaeser]

I actually don't own it - but I do have access to it . Cheese comments coming
from a known Burmese player???

Going through the factors they really hold well againt missile fire and are much
tougher in combat. They still don't hold a great frontage, but it is a much
better army. In 25mm it's even better w/ the frontage situation.

Todd

kelly wilkinson <jwilkinson62@...> wrote:
Todd,

This list has more Velveta than any Hutchby and Clark list ever! How can
you live with yourself and play it?!?! :)

kw

Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@...> wrote:
One mistake - the Ashigaru are LMI not LHI.

Oops.

Todd K

Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@...> wrote:
Hello all, and Ed

With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't help myself to
come up with a list. I've played the previous list and really enjoyed it. I
was never overly successful with it - it had too many deficiancies, but it was a
blast to play. Ewan - I'm expecting comments - Not that you would ever run
an army like this.

Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it down - don't
worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new list and before you paint
them play with them so you can see if they are wanted/needed.

Feudal Japanese #40

CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142 (568)
2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)

Total = 1606
scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)

Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the Japanese army to
take up more space - a huge problem in the past. They also allow for force
marching to allow space to be created and you don't have to sacrifice your main
units to fatigue. The mounted element easily dismounts if there is no need for
it to 2 very servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack. The big
Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent will have to bring a
fair amount of units to take this one out and it can't be shot up very easily w/
those mantlets.

The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg A units are
nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B as I don't believe it
will be worth the points - lets face it they are not there to skirmish. The
LEHI allows the samurai player to take shooting much better.

Any thoughts??? -

Todd K

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[Ed Kollmer]

Yo Todd!!
Thanks for the advise!I have a question or two.
1) I see you have 2HCT front and 1HCW back. Do you get the 1/2 the
back with 1HCW fighting??? Why not just have B or LB back rank since
they don't fight(or do they)???
2) Why get the HC?? Skirmish?? or ??
3) I might look at getting the IRRA Samurai rather than the monks.
Matt was saying the monks eat arrows and die. I hope I have enough
samurai.
I will look at the list again.But Todd,I warn you (as you already
know from dealing with me in the past)middle school teachers are not
know to be sane. I will probably do some crazy thing!!!
EdK


-- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...>
wrote:
> One mistake - the Ashigaru are LMI not LHI.
>
> Oops.
>
> Todd K
>
> Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...> wrote:
> Hello all, and Ed
>
> With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't
help myself to come up with a list. I've played the previous list
and really enjoyed it. I was never overly successful with it - it
had too many deficiancies, but it was a blast to play. Ewan - I'm
expecting comments - Not that you would ever run an army like
this.
>
> Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it
down - don't worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new
list and before you paint them play with them so you can see if they
are wanted/needed.
>
> Feudal Japanese #40
>
> CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
> Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
> 2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
> 4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142
(568)
> 2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
> 4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
> 12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
> 3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)
>
> Total = 1606
> scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)
>
> Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the
Japanese army to take up more space - a huge problem in the past.
They also allow for force marching to allow space to be created and
you don't have to sacrifice your main units to fatigue. The mounted
element easily dismounts if there is no need for it to 2 very
servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack.
The big Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent
will have to bring a fair amount of units to take this one out and
it can't be shot up very easily w/ those mantlets.
>
> The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg
A units are nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B
as I don't believe it will be worth the points - lets face it they
are not there to skirmish. The LEHI allows the samurai player to
take shooting much better.
>
> Any thoughts??? -
>
> Todd K
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[Todd Kaeser]

Ed - I see you too are excited about the list.

I'll put my comments after your questions K???

hawktheslayer2000 <ekollmer@...> wrote:


Yo Todd!!
Thanks for the advise!I have a question or two.
1) I see you have 2HCT front and 1HCW back. Do you get the 1/2 the
back with 1HCW fighting??? Why not just have B or LB back rank since
they don't fight(or do they)???

*** 1HCW now fights a rank and a half - so the 2nd rank of 1HCW fight at half
effect even w/ the 2HCT in front. I have B throughout the 6E units so they can
be flexible if they want and can shoot away LC or LI that is trying to slow them
up w/o having to charge things away. They could also give knights a CPF or 2
before they hit.




2) Why get the HC?? Skirmish?? or ??



*** I like a flexible wing for the Japanese armies. This is clearly just my
playing style. They can dish out a fair amount of shooting, can skirmish, and
now can dismount 1 to 1 so they'll be a 4E unit of LHI with a front rank of 2HCT
and a rear rank of 1HCW.




3) I might look at getting the IRRA Samurai rather than the monks.
Matt was saying the monks eat arrows and die. I hope I have enough
samurai.
I will look at the list again.But Todd,I warn you (as you already
know from dealing with me in the past)middle school teachers are not
know to be sane. I will probably do some crazy thing!!!



*** Love seeing you there. I'll have Aztecs and Knights of St. John and would
gladly try to take on the mighty Samurai. Don't worry about having the right
figs Ed - get close enough and say you're painting the rest. This is a great
weekend to learn how to run the new OW lists. If I didn't want/need to run
Aztec I'd bring an oriental army myself.



Todd
EdK


-- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...>
wrote:
> One mistake - the Ashigaru are LMI not LHI.
>
> Oops.
>
> Todd K
>
> Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...> wrote:
> Hello all, and Ed
>
> With all this talk about the new Feudal Japanese list I couldn't
help myself to come up with a list. I've played the previous list
and really enjoyed it. I was never overly successful with it - it
had too many deficiancies, but it was a blast to play. Ewan - I'm
expecting comments - Not that you would ever run an army like
this.
>
> Just a few thoughts to Ed Kollmer who is thinking of bringing it
down - don't worry about having the "correct" LI - it's a brand new
list and before you paint them play with them so you can see if they
are wanted/needed.
>
> Feudal Japanese #40
>
> CinC 2E HK B 1/2 2HCT + PA - 164
> Sub 2E LEHI B 1/2 2HCT 1/2 1HCW + P - 97
> 2x 4E Samurai Cavalry Ir B HC B 1/2 2HCT - 121 (242)
> 4x 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142
(568)
> 2x 2E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 70 (140)
> 4E Samurai Infantry Ir A 1/2 LEHI 2HCT 1/2 LHI 1HCW - 115
> 12 Ashigaru Ir C LHI 1/2 2HCW,B 1/2 1HCW B + 6 mantlets - 157
> 3x 4E Ashigaru scouts Ir C LI B - 41 (123)
>
> Total = 1606
> scouting - 14 (outscouted - 52)
>
> Interesting in my book. The scouts obviously allow for the
Japanese army to take up more space - a huge problem in the past.
They also allow for force marching to allow space to be created and
you don't have to sacrifice your main units to fatigue. The mounted
element easily dismounts if there is no need for it to 2 very
servicible 4E LHI 1/2 2HCT,B 1/2 1HCW,B units - but it also gives
you a flank to harrass or dally with so you can launch your attack.
The big Ashigaru unit also takes up some good space and an opponent
will have to bring a fair amount of units to take this one out and
it can't be shot up very easily w/ those mantlets.
>
> The strike force of Samurai infantry is pretty tough and the Ireg
A units are nothing I'd like to have hit me. I didn't give them B
as I don't believe it will be worth the points - lets face it they
are not there to skirmish. The LEHI allows the samurai player to
take shooting much better.
>
> Any thoughts??? -
>
> Todd K
>
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[John Garlic]

Hey Roger,

I agree with your unit cost analysis. These guys are very expensive. Are
you planning to bring Samurai to Bayou Wars? Just curious since that's what I'm
working on myself. My real concern is the army size in 15mm since it would
seem that they will be spread pretty thin due to cost. Doing 14c, so not all
the banners and sashimonos. I'm not the greatest painter, so was curious how
you're handling some of the finer details. It'd be really cool, to have a
couple Japanese armies facing off.

John Garlic

In a message dated 3/14/2005 9:51:43 AM Central Standard Time,
rwalker@... writes:
Sanity check please.


6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142

I come up with this unit costing:

Irr B LHI 1HCW @ 15/element x 6 = 90
1/2 to LEHI @ 6 per x 3 = 18
1/2 to 2HCT @ 3 per x 3 = 9
add Bow @ 3 per x 6 = 18
sub 135
command pts @ 25 25
Total per 6 element unit 160

Finishing the paint job on a 15mm Samurai army. Looking forward to
putting it on the table.


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[John Garlic]

Hi Roger,

I haven't heard much buzz yet. I am definitely in since all of my kid's
sports and activities should be over by then. I will either bring my Han again,
or try out Japanese for their first go.

John

In a message dated 3/14/2005 11:33:03 AM Central Standard Time,
rwalker@... writes:
The Samurai are my son's (17 year old). He's played here and there. Hoping
he will get fired up with the new army and he will be playing them.

I'm looking at Nobades/Bleymme...EHC handicapped for tournament play by lack
of lance, but you can get medium camel lancers, all irreg As, to run with
them.

I know its early, but anyone else from your area looking at BW?.


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Sanity check please.


6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142

I come up with this unit costing:

Irr B LHI 1HCW @ 15/element x 6 = 90
1/2 to LEHI @ 6 per x 3 = 18
1/2 to 2HCT @ 3 per x 3 = 9
add Bow @ 3 per x 6 = 18
sub 135
command pts @ 25 25
Total per 6 element unit 160

Finishing the paint job on a 15mm Samurai army. Looking forward to
putting it on the table.

[Ed Forbes]

Is there a list rule that lets one fight in 2 ranks with 2HCT and 1HCW?

Ed

-- "Roger Walker" <rwalker@...> wrote:

Sanity check please.


6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142

I come up with this unit costing:

Irr B LHI 1HCW @ 15/element x 6 = 90
1/2 to LEHI @ 6 per x 3 = 18
1/2 to 2HCT @ 3 per x 3 = 9
add Bow @ 3 per x 6 = 18
sub 135
command pts @ 25 25
Total per 6 element unit 160

Finishing the paint job on a 15mm Samurai army. Looking forward to
putting it on the table.







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Correct:

"A second rank of foot armed with 1HCW, behind a first rank armed with any
weapon, fights at half effect."

That is Oriental Warrior list rule. Imperial Warrior is similar, but has
restrictions on troop type being faced (HC, MC, LC (and corresponding
camelry), any foot except EHI/SHI).

I was questioning the cost of the six element unit being 142 points...I got
160.

R


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Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Japanese list idea


>
>
> Is there a list rule that lets one fight in 2 ranks with 2HCT and 1HCW?
>
> Ed
>
> -- "Roger Walker" <rwalker@...> wrote:
>
> Sanity check please.
>
>
> 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142
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> I come up with this unit costing:
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> Irr B LHI 1HCW @ 15/element x 6 = 90
> 1/2 to LEHI @ 6 per x 3 = 18
> 1/2 to 2HCT @ 3 per x 3 = 9
> add Bow @ 3 per x 6 = 18
> sub 135
> command pts @ 25 25
> Total per 6 element unit 160
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> Finishing the paint job on a 15mm Samurai army. Looking forward to
> putting it on the table.
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Good Morning John,

The Samurai are my son's (17 year old). He's played here and there. Hoping
he will get fired up with the new army and he will be playing them.

I'm looking at Nobades/Bleymme...EHC handicapped for tournament play by lack
of lance, but you can get medium camel lancers, all irreg As, to run with
them.

I know its early, but anyone else from your area looking at BW?.

R


----- Original Message -----
From: <jmgarlic@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 11:03 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Japanese list idea


>
> Hey Roger,
>
> I agree with your unit cost analysis. These guys are very expensive. Are
> you planning to bring Samurai to Bayou Wars? Just curious since that's
> what I'm
> working on myself. My real concern is the army size in 15mm since it
> would
> seem that they will be spread pretty thin due to cost. Doing 14c, so not
> all
> the banners and sashimonos. I'm not the greatest painter, so was curious
> how
> you're handling some of the finer details. It'd be really cool, to have a
> couple Japanese armies facing off.
>
> John Garlic
>
> In a message dated 3/14/2005 9:51:43 AM Central Standard Time,
> rwalker@... writes:
> Sanity check please.
>
>
> 6E Samurai Infantry Ir B 1/2 LEHI 2HCT,B 1/2 LHI 1HCW,B - 142
>
> I come up with this unit costing:
>
> Irr B LHI 1HCW @ 15/element x 6 = 90
> 1/2 to LEHI @ 6 per x 3 = 18
> 1/2 to 2HCT @ 3 per x 3 = 9
> add Bow @ 3 per x 6 = 18
> sub 135
> command pts @ 25 25
> Total per 6 element unit 160
>
> Finishing the paint job on a 15mm Samurai army. Looking forward to
> putting it on the table.
>
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[scott holder]

> That is Oriental Warrior list rule. Imperial Warrior is similar,
but has restrictions on troop type being faced (HC, MC, LC (and
corresponding camelry), any foot except EHI/SHI).

Please look at erata posted on our web page. Everything is
consistent.

scott