Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

pat
I will help you when I get back from vacation.
Jon

[Patrick Byrne]

I still need some help with this earlier question, please.
-PB

Patrick Byrnes wrote:

> Cool.
>
> Also I assume a detachment can have more elements than the parent body (since
> the rules do not state so otherwise). And if I've got this all correct, a
> regular parent unit which is in 2x2 block and has a detachment unit in 3x2
> block formation, can reabsorb the detachment and ends up as a 2x5 (since a
> 2/2/3/3 formation is not allowed). This contraction from 3x2 to 2x3 for the
> detachment is free, correct? or does it need to pay movement penalties (ie.
> contract and 40p move if IRR)?
>
> Along the same lines, if an LMI parent body in 2x2 block absords its 1x2
> detachment of LMI's, does the detachment automatically revert to 2x1 to form
> the back rank or is this a formation change (expanding frontage)? or must it
> expand its frontage before reaborbtion into the parent Borg, I mean body?
> (All this assumes that the formation can't end up 2/2/1/1)
>
> Finally, I assume when the detachment is reabsorbing back into the parent
> body, interpenetration is ignored. Interpenetration is only applyed when
> parent body is joining the detachment (a symantic of who is moving, the
> chicken or the egg), & when the detachment forming the rear rank wants to
> move ahead of the parent body.
>
> Last question(s). If an IRR A detachment is forming the back rank of a
> parent body, and is within 120p of the enemy, must it declare a charge, being
> that the charge is through the parent body, and maybe thus interpentration
> occurs? It is a seperate unit by all accounts, right?
>
> In summary, I have not played detachments, as the Yuan Mongols aren't
> allowed any, but now I am making some Irish/Viking list and am trying to
> understand limitations on detachments.
> -PB
>
> JonCleaves@... wrote:
>
> > Can't be done if parent is 2x2. 3 element LI det if regular has only two
> > legal blocks - 1x3 and 3x1.
> >
> > It is possible to construct a det and a parent such that they cannot be
> > joined. I recommend against it.
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[joncleaves]

<< Also I assume a detachment can have more elements than the parent body (since
the rules do not state so otherwise).>>

Correct.

<<And if I've got this all correct, a regular parent unit which is in 2x2 block
and has a detachment unit in 3x2 block formation, can reabsorb the detachment
and ends up as a 2x5 (since a 2/2/3/3 formation is not allowed).>>

Yes.

<< This contraction from 3x2 to 2x3 for the detachment is free, correct?>>

No. It needs to get in the correct formation first. The rule is:
"A detachment must obey all rules about movement and interpenetration."

But I cans ee where that needs to be clarified and I have added it to the list.

<< Finally, I assume when the detachment is reabsorbing back into the parent
body, interpenetration is ignored.>>

Not true.

<< Last question(s). If an IRR A detachment is forming the back rank of a
parent body, and is within 120p of the enemy, must it declare a charge, being
that the charge is through the parent body, and maybe thus interpentration
occurs? It is a seperate unit by all accounts, right?

Actually, the body includes Irr A so the whole thing must charge under attack.
If the det can get to the target in a legal interpenetration, it could charge on
its own.

Jon