Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Hi everyone! I just joined the group and have downloaded the Oct
release. I spent all day reading it and am very pleased so far. Keep
up the good work Jon. I have been playing WRG 7th since about 1990. I
live in Mobile, AL. We had ,at that time, about 20 players now we are
down to about 5 regular players. This set so far seems to be the thing
we need to get more players involved as it is much easier to
understand. I still have a few questions though and I'll try to be
brief. I tried to read as much as i could of the over 600 posts so I
hope I don't go into something that has already been hashed out if so
just point me to the right post so you dont have to repeat your self.

What are the rules for Bombards shooting over other troops? Are they
considered "stone throwers" as they shoot "Large stone balls"? Or do
they fall under other and can not shoot from or to higher areas?
Please clarify this for me. In addition my Ottoman Turk Army List
states "A typical battle plan puts the azabs (ie. LI) in front,
Flanked by Akinjis (ie. LC). Behind them is the artillery. further to
the rear are the Janissaries, flanked by fuedal Sipahis...,and behind
them Sipahis of the Porte,"(WRG list 160) So the second part of this
question is more about tactics than rules. If the Bombards are behind
the LI with no visible enemy until the LI runs by, Who are the
bombards supposed to shoot at and how? (I once tried this tactic and
it was a horrible thing to see. I never got a shot off until support
shooting as the enemys LI rolled over my bombards as they have the
lowest factors for shooting at.)

Next rules are about skirmishers. I saw the post about "countering
and moving out of range" is there supposed to be a NOT in that
statement (6.45) also in that section it discusses charging by
skirmishers. Later on in the rules it says skermishers must evade if
charged. Do I have this right? My LC is in skirmish 80p from
disordered HC we both declare a charge impet. since he is a legal
target I revert to block and charge in right? Ok. same senario but
this time he also has a HC unit not disordered in charge reach which
he also charges since my LC can't charge them I must now evade? is
that all correct?
If I have a 24 man LI unit in contact with another 24 LI unit but
we are split so that 3 elements are fighting and 3 are not. Are the
un-engaged elements eligable targets for both prep fire and support
fire? (This is a change for me from 7th because once in contact in 7th
only units in contact and those "prolonging the front" could shoot and
then only in support)
Last question (until i read the rules for a second time <grin>) Am
I reading the fatigue rules right all "K" units that charge impet. get
4FP now? 1 for charge 1 for heavy mounted charge and 2 for impet.

Thanks for taking time to read this and thanks even more if you take
the time to answer back. I feel like some of my questions are stupid
but I never played 7.6 our group stayed with 7th. Now i want to get
back into torny's and really want to do it right and these rules seem
to be much clearer.

Thanks Again Gary

[joncleaves]

Welcome Gary. Glad to have you aboard.

<<Keep up the good work Jon.>>

There are four Horsemen: me, Jake, Scott and Bill. Jake does our money and will
be handling the rules printing. Scott does the lists: 540+ for Basic and Fast
Warrior together. Bill does our legal stuff and negotiates with WRG. I have the
easy job: hanging out here with you guys talking about rules!

<< What are the rules for Bombards shooting over other troops? Are they
considered "stone throwers" as they shoot "Large stone balls"?>>

Bombards are not stone throwers. They shoot what they can see.

<< In addition my Ottoman Turk Army List
states "A typical battle plan puts the azabs (ie. LI) in front...>>

I would ignore all that. It was written for 6th ed.

<< Next rules are about skirmishers. I saw the post about "countering and
moving out of range" is there supposed to be a NOT in that statement (6.45)>>

Yep. Oct draft online is admittedly old. That statement has been rewritten.

<<also in that section it discusses charging by
skirmishers. Later on in the rules it says skirmishers must evade if charged.>>

See 6.45: "If their charge is not canceled they are not otherwise required to
evade and revert to block at the start of charge movement."

<<My LC is in skirmish 80p from
disordered HC we both declare a charge impet. since he is a legal target I
revert to block and charge in right?>>

Yep. Unless your charge was cancelled for some other reason.

<< Ok. same senario but this time he also has a HC unit not disordered in charge
reach which
he also charges since my LC can't charge them I must now evade? is that all
correct?>>

Yep.

<< If I have a 24 man LI unit in contact with another 24 LI unit but
we are split so that 3 elements are fighting and 3 are not. Are the un-engaged
elements eligable targets for both prep fire and support fire?>>

They are not eligible to be prep shot. They are for support shooting if they
are not otherwise eligible to fight hand-to-hand.

<<Am I reading the fatigue rules right all "K" units that charge impet. get
4FP now? 1 for charge 1 for heavy mounted charge and 2 for impet.>>

That is correct.

Again, welcome.
Jon

Thx for the above Jon. Tell Jake, Scott and Bill, keep up the good
work too!!.

ok to go over this one more time so i make sure ive got it right. I
understand that Bombards can not shoot over interviening troops at
troops they can not see. Can the how ever shot over troops to a knoll
rise etc. or from a knoll rise etc. The reason I ask this is that as
an artilary piece I think that the Para. in 8.7 specifies only Stone
throwers and bolt shooters are able to do that. I relly feel that that
is an oversite in all rules sets. Bombards were definatly used to
shoot at the battlements of castle walls and I'm sure that the
Ottomans used them along with hand gunners to thrash enemy defensive
positions. If it is not allowable that is fine and I will play it as
it reads but I do feel it is something that should be looked at.

Thanks again Gary