Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Todd Kaeser]

Technically, they are already countersunk, but not deep enough for a quick hold
from crazyglue. I personally hate glueing stuff like that together - the
crazyglue never works fast enough for me and I seem to waste a lot of time
waiting around for the glue to set.

Todd K

hrisikos@... wrote:
> Greek,
>
> I've found that the spears from old glory look very nice, and being steel
> hold up remarkably well, but... I've had to drill out each and every
> spear head w/ a dremel to ensure that the spear will crazyglue well to
> the spear-shaft. Big pain in the butt, but worth it in the end.
>
> Todd K
>

Drat! I was assuming that OG already had countersunk the spearheads so
that part would be moot, or else that the shaft and head would already
come together in one piece. They're not? Oh well, at least it'll be easier
than the few times I've done similar countersink spear jobs in 15mm!

-Greek



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[Bill Chriss]

> Technically, they are already countersunk, but not deep enough for a
> quick hold from crazyglue. I personally hate glueing stuff like that
> together - the crazyglue never works fast enough for me and I seem to
> waste a lot of time waiting around for the glue to set.
>
> Todd K
>


Okay, I can live with that. The biggest problem with the dremel is getting
the hole started. Making an existing hole deeper doesn't bother me. Thanks
for the info.

-Greek

[joncleaves]

Dudes

I use the OG spears all the time and it takes me seconds to make a whole set of
spears with a dremel and super glue. the hole in the spearhead is started, a
quick dremel and some glue and you're done.

jon

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Sent: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 14:11:54 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Painting/Modeling question


> Technically, they are already countersunk, but not deep enough for a
> quick hold from crazyglue. I personally hate glueing stuff like that
> together - the crazyglue never works fast enough for me and I seem to
> waste a lot of time waiting around for the glue to set.
>
> Todd K
>


Okay, I can live with that. The biggest problem with the dremel is getting
the hole started. Making an existing hole deeper doesn't bother me. Thanks
for the info.

-Greek





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[Bill Chriss]

> Dudes
>
> I use the OG spears all the time and it takes me seconds to make a whole
> set of spears with a dremel and super glue. the hole in the spearhead is
> started, a quick dremel and some glue and you're done.
>
> jon
>


Yes, as I say, this is what I would expect. I am looking forward to it as
an alternative to cutting and hammering my own 15mm spears out of brass
wire. I am also looking forward to not having to measure and cut my own
bases. Thanks for your help and advice on these issues, Jon. And Todd, as
well. I hope this discussion has also helped somebody else on the list.


-Greek

[Mark Stone]

--- On August 17 Jon Cleaves said: ---

> Dudes
>
> I use the OG spears all the time and it takes me seconds to make a whole set
of
> spears with a dremel and super glue. the hole in the spearhead is started, a
> quick dremel and some glue and you're done.

What is this fabled dremel of which you speak, and where might I purchase one?


-Mark Stone

[Bill Chriss]

>> What is this fabled dremel of which you speak, and where might I purchase
> one?
>
>
> -Mark Stone
>
Dremel is the brand name of the original high speed miniature handheld
drill used by jewelers, model makers, and others. Sears craftsman makes
essentially the same tool, and you can get them battery rechargeable,
totally cordless, or plug in the wall style. You'll find this baby at
Sears or any high end hobby or tool store.

They are very useful for miniatures conversions, drilling out figures'
hands, sanding or grinding off flash, etc.

-Greek

[Steve Hollowell]

Make sure to get the multi-speed if available.

hrisikos@... wrote:>> What is this fabled dremel of which you speak, and
where might I purchase
> one?
>
>
> -Mark Stone
>
Dremel is the brand name of the original high speed miniature handheld
drill used by jewelers, model makers, and others. Sears craftsman makes
essentially the same tool, and you can get them battery rechargeable,
totally cordless, or plug in the wall style. You'll find this baby at
Sears or any high end hobby or tool store.

They are very useful for miniatures conversions, drilling out figures'
hands, sanding or grinding off flash, etc.

-Greek



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Greetings Greek and Todd,
I black primer my 28mm Japanese. It looks good an paints quickly, for my
bronze age I primer bronze and blackwash.. I'm all to often forced to rush
troops out for Cons so I have gotten good at mass production.
Terry Dix

- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Kaeser <hailkaeser@y...> wrote:
> Greek,
>
> I personally use the black priming in both 15's and 25's. It makes my
painting faster - I don't paint what I want "outlined" and it works well for me.
Also, if you forget to paint something than at least it isn't as noticeable.
>
> Todd Kaeser
>

[Chris Bump]

Vini Vidi Vici transfers sell brass spears where the tips have been
cut to a point and flattened. They sell them in three lengths for
pike, LTS/ Lance and Jls/spear. They come about 40 to a pack and
cost, well I forget the cost. When I saw them I bought tons and
haven't had to go back since, but all I have to do with them is use
a file to take off the flash and I like to round off the outside
edges with a file. In my opinion the spear tips on the OG are too
big for the shaft (no doubt a function of enough size to accomodate
the appropriate sized shaft and still be mass producable) and look
rather cartoonish.
Chris

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Scott McCoppin" <sctrac@p...>
wrote:
> Probably more work than you wanted to do, but I have taken the
brass wire
> and tapped it a couple times with a hammer, then shaped them with
the
> grinding wheel (on a dremmel).once you get going, it takes no time
at all to
> make up enough for my use.or I just save myself the hassle and buy
them
> (smile).
>
>
>
> _____
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> From: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
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> Behalf Of hrisikos@D...
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Painting/Modeling question
>
>
>
> > JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> > Both Old Glory and Foundry make premade spears. The old glory
kind come
> > in different lengths and have premolded leaf-shaped spearheads.
> >
> > Litko Aerosystems is my new choice for bases. Laser cut wood
with
> > magnetic bottoms.
> >
> > J
>
>
> Do the Old Glory spears have steel shafts? (Their website has no
pics).
> Foundry's steel spears are apparently sharpened, but not flattened
and
> shaped. What I'm looking for are steel shafted spears suitable for
25mm
> use that also have leaf-shaped spearheads. I like the Xyston
variety for
> 15mm. Thanks.
>
>
> -Greek
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A cheaper and more painless way to make great looking spearsis to use an O'Cedar
or any type of broom that employs nylon bristles, cut them to length, mash the
ends with a set of flat pliers and trim the ends to spear points with a set of
dykes (!). They also cause less damage and will usually not impale themselves
with a misplace palm :)

Mark

painter, sometimes player.


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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:51:20 -0000
From: "cncbump" <cncbump@...>
Subject: Re: Painting/Modeling question

Vini Vidi Vici transfers sell brass spears where the tips have been
cut to a point and flattened. They sell them in three lengths for
pike, LTS/ Lance and Jls/spear. They come about 40 to a pack and
cost, well I forget the cost. When I saw them I bought tons and
haven't had to go back since, but all I have to do with them is use
a file to take off the flash and I like to round off the outside
edges with a file. In my opinion the spear tips on the OG are too
big for the shaft (no doubt a function of enough size to accomodate
the appropriate sized shaft and still be mass producable) and look
rather cartoonish.
Chris

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Scott McCoppin" <sctrac@p...>
wrote:
> Probably more work than you wanted to do, but I have taken the
brass wire
> and tapped it a couple times with a hammer, then shaped them with
the
> grinding wheel (on a dremmel).once you get going, it takes no time
at all to
> make up enough for my use.or I just save myself the hassle and buy
them
> (smile).
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of hrisikos@D...
> Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:54 PM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Painting/Modeling question
>
>
>
> > JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> > Both Old Glory and Foundry make premade spears. The old glory
kind come
> > in different lengths and have premolded leaf-shaped spearheads.
> >
> > Litko Aerosystems is my new choice for bases. Laser cut wood
with
> > magnetic bottoms.
> >
> > J
>
>
> Do the Old Glory spears have steel shafts? (Their website has no
pics).
> Foundry's steel spears are apparently sharpened, but not flattened
and
> shaped. What I'm looking for are steel shafted spears suitable for
25mm
> use that also have leaf-shaped spearheads. I like the Xyston
variety for
> 15mm. Thanks.
>
>
> -Greek
>
>
>
>





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