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				 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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Jon,
 
 
Letąs say my army has 9 units in total made up of: 5 cavalry units
 
(mounted), 3 infantry units, and my camp (the camp is a unit, I think).
 
 
Could the camp be mobile? I would assume it would then be considered
 
mounted? So there would be 6 mounted and 3 not, meaning at least 2/3 of the
 
army is mounted.
 
 
Thanks
 
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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In order to have a mobile camp, your army has to be 2/3 mobile, not counting the
 
camp.
 
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 24, 2002 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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Sorry.  2/3 MOUNTED.
 
 
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		Kelly Wilkinson Dictator
  
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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--- JonCleaves@... wrote:
 
> In order to have a mobile camp, your army has to be
 
> 2/3 mobile, not counting the camp.
 
>
 
 
Jon, wouldn't the whole camp be transport anyway? It
 
must have some sort of transport as it got there by
 
some means of transportation. Most would be cart and
 
wagon drawn by oxen, mules, onagers, draft horses etc.
 
. . right? So why would having a somewhat mobile camp
 
matter? 80 paces a turn is no great advantage.
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 7:46 pm    Post subject: RE: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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So Boyd can dismount it and form orb.
 
 
John the OFM
 
 
 
 
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> --- JonCleaves@... wrote:
 
> > In order to have a mobile camp, your army has to be
 
> > 2/3 mobile, not counting the camp.
 
> >
 
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> Jon, wouldn't the whole camp be transport anyway? It
 
> must have some sort of transport as it got there by
 
> some means of transportation. Most would be cart and
 
> wagon drawn by oxen, mules, onagers, draft horses etc.
 
> . . right? So why would having a somewhat mobile camp
 
> matter? 80 paces a turn is no great advantage.
 
>
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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In a message dated Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:46:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
 
johncarroll453@... writes:
 
 
> So Boyd can dismount it and form orb.
 
>
 
> John the OFM
 
 
Actually Boyd would have used pachederms to transport the baggage and he was
 
anticipating this whole strain of questions when he was asking about dismounting
 
his elephants and forming orb.
 
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		joncleaves Moderator
  
  
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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In a message dated 6/26/2002 15:37:40 Central Daylight Time,
 
vercengetorix@... writes:
 
 
 
> As each unit was 2E, it would have dismounted
 
> as a single element unit, so it wouldn't be legal to
 
> move, charge, or anything else  
 
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Those pesky rules.  In this case, 6.61....
 
 
"As an exception to the normal rules for unit size, a dismounted unit may
 
have a size of one element. "
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 11:34 pm    Post subject: RE: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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--- John Carroll <johncarroll453@...> wrote:
 
> So Boyd can dismount it and form orb.
 
>
 
> John the OFM
 
 
Now now, you know it would have to be MC or better to
 
dismount as close order.  Only then could it form orb.
 
 
BTW, I considered dismounting my Normans against the
 
Khmer, but wasn't sure IrrA HI J/sh was the right tool
 
to use.  As each unit was 2E, it would have dismounted
 
as a single element unit, so it wouldn't be legal to
 
move, charge, or anything else :)
 
 
boyd
 
 
 
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> > From: kelly wilkinson
 
> [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:42 PM
 
> > To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
 
> > Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] RULES Mounted camp?
 
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> >
 
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> > --- JonCleaves@... wrote:
 
> > > In order to have a mobile camp, your army has to
 
> be
 
> > > 2/3 mobile, not counting the camp.
 
> > >
 
> >
 
> > Jon, wouldn't the whole camp be transport anyway?
 
> It
 
> > must have some sort of transport as it got there
 
> by
 
> > some means of transportation. Most would be cart
 
> and
 
> > wagon drawn by oxen, mules, onagers, draft horses
 
> etc.
 
> > . . right? So why would having a somewhat mobile
 
> camp
 
> > matter? 80 paces a turn is no great advantage.
 
> >
 
> >                      Kelly
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 11:17 am    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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In a message dated 6/27/2002 07:09:13 Central Daylight Time,
 
vercengetorix@... writes:
 
 
 
> Now I know!  What would be better than IrrA HI J/sh vs El?
 
>
 
 
More than four figures of it.....
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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> Those pesky rules.  In this case, 6.61....
 
>
 
> "As an exception to the normal rules for unit size, a dismounted
 
unit may
 
> have a size of one element. "
 
 
Now I know!  What would be better than IrrA HI J/sh vs El?
 
 
Nothing :)
 
 
So now the Normans are complete as a tournament army.  I have
 
Cottereaux LHI for the woods, HI to absorb bowfire, IrrA HC for enemy
 
LMI and mounted, LI and LC to hold back flanks, pallisades and MI B
 
for nothing important, and now dismounted IrrA HI J/sh for
 
elephants.  Obi-Wan has taught me well; I am indeed powerful as the
 
Emperior has forseen.
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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Now I know!  What would be better than IrrA HI J/sh vs El?
 
>
 
> Nothing  
 
>
 
> So now the Normans are complete as a tournament army.  I have
 
> Cottereaux LHI for the woods, HI to absorb bowfire, IrrA HC for enemy
 
> LMI and mounted, LI and LC to hold back flanks, pallisades and MI B
 
> for nothing important, and now dismounted IrrA HI J/sh for
 
> elephants.  Obi-Wan has taught me well; I am indeed powerful as the
 
> Emperior has forseen.
 
 
Wouldnąt they drop a morale class for dismounting?
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 5:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: RULES Mounted camp? | 
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<<Wouldnąt they drop a morale class for dismounting?>>
 
 
Yes.  :)
 
 
Charles you are on it!!  I bet someone it would take three days before someone
 
called Boyd on this.  You did it in one!!
 
 
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