Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

Jon,

A LI unit routs.
Upon routing does it burst through or interpenetrate
an Irregular MI unit behind it since there are no gaps?
Is the Irregular MI unit disordered, swept away or unaffected?

I know this is in the rules but LI can normally interpenetrate another
unit.

Thanks for your patience!

Chris

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 3/19/2004 3:49:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
christebo@... writes:

> A LI unit routs.
> Upon routing does it burst through or interpenetrate
> an Irregular MI unit behind it since there are no gaps?>>

I am assuming this MI is friendly to the LI.

> Is the Irregular MI unit disordered, swept away or
> unaffected?>>

Unaffected. The LI simply interpenetrates them. Rule 6.32. "Rout path blocked
by friendly bodies: Routers, other than elephants or expendables, who would
contact friendly bodies in the
rout path will interpenetrate them if they are normally allowed to do so
(6.52)."

J

Glad to hear I can still read! Yes, this is the way I read the rules
but wanted a confirmation.

Cheers,

Chris Tebo

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 3/19/2004 3:49:31 PM Eastern Standard Time,
christebo@s... writes:
>
> > A LI unit routs.
> > Upon routing does it burst through or interpenetrate
> > an Irregular MI unit behind it since there are no gaps?>>
>
> I am assuming this MI is friendly to the LI.
>
> > Is the Irregular MI unit disordered, swept away or
> > unaffected?>>
>
> Unaffected. The LI simply interpenetrates them. Rule 6.32. "Rout
path blocked by friendly bodies: Routers, other than elephants or
expendables, who would contact friendly bodies in the
> rout path will interpenetrate them if they are normally allowed to
do so (6.52)."
>
> J

[Bill Chriss]

JOn:

This came up in a recent game: 6.521 says you're disordered if
interpenetrated by any BUT LI, OR if you are BURST THROUGH by routers
(6.32). In then reading 6.32, one finds that bursting through appears to
relate only to otherwise unavoidable ILLEGAL interpenetrations that
become *legal* because the routers have to keep going. Thus, I conclude
that an interpenetration of a unit by routing LI is NOT a *burst through
by routers* and hence does not disorder the interpenetrated unit because
anyone can freely be interpenetrated by LI (whether routing or not).

Am I reading this right? Or do routing LI count as *bursting through*
just because they're in rout, even though the interpentration would
otherwise be *legal*?

I believe that either way, this could be clearer, and there is no
mention of it in the latest clarifications. Thanks.


Greek

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, hrisikos@D... wrote:
> JOn:
>
> This came up in a recent game: 6.521 says you're disordered if
> interpenetrated by any BUT LI, OR if you are BURST THROUGH by routers
> (6.32). In then reading 6.32, one finds that bursting through appears to
> relate only to otherwise unavoidable ILLEGAL interpenetrations that
> become *legal* because the routers have to keep going. Thus, I conclude
> that an interpenetration of a unit by routing LI is NOT a *burst through
> by routers* and hence does not disorder the interpenetrated unit because
> anyone can freely be interpenetrated by LI (whether routing or not).
>
> Am I reading this right? Or do routing LI count as *bursting through*
> just because they're in rout, even though the interpentration would
> otherwise be *legal*?
>
> I believe that either way, this could be clearer, and there is no
> mention of it in the latest clarifications. Thanks.

This doesn't seem unclear to me. 6.32 clearly identifies what
happens when routers meet friendlies:

1. They interpenetrate normally, OR
2. They divert to a gap, OR
3. They burst through when all else fails.

6.521 specifically refers to 6.32 with regards to bursting through.

Rich

[joncleaves]

Rich is correct. But at Greek's request, I will look at what might be done to
make it more clear.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Rich Crosby <rcrosby@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:42:35 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Rules Question for Jon


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, hrisikos@D... wrote:
> JOn:
>
> This came up in a recent game: 6.521 says you're disordered if
> interpenetrated by any BUT LI, OR if you are BURST THROUGH by routers
> (6.32). In then reading 6.32, one finds that bursting through appears to
> relate only to otherwise unavoidable ILLEGAL interpenetrations that
> become *legal* because the routers have to keep going. Thus, I conclude
> that an interpenetration of a unit by routing LI is NOT a *burst through
> by routers* and hence does not disorder the interpenetrated unit because
> anyone can freely be interpenetrated by LI (whether routing or not).
>
> Am I reading this right? Or do routing LI count as *bursting through*
> just because they're in rout, even though the interpentration would
> otherwise be *legal*?
>
> I believe that either way, this could be clearer, and there is no
> mention of it in the latest clarifications. Thanks.

This doesn't seem unclear to me. 6.32 clearly identifies what
happens when routers meet friendlies:

1. They interpenetrate normally, OR
2. They divert to a gap, OR
3. They burst through when all else fails.

6.521 specifically refers to 6.32 with regards to bursting through.

Rich





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[Bill Chriss]

Thank you, Jon, but what about my question? Does that mean I'm right that
the unit interpenetrated by routing LI is NOT disordered? Thanks.


> Rich is correct. But at Greek's request, I will look at what might be
> done to make it more clear.
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Crosby
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:42:35 -0000
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Rules Question for Jon
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> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, hrisikos@D... wrote:
> > JOn:
> >
> > This came up in a recent game: 6.521 says you're disordered if
> > interpenetrated by any BUT LI, OR if you are BURST THROUGH by routers
> > (6.32). In then reading 6.32, one finds that bursting through appears
> to
> > relate only to otherwise unavoidable ILLEGAL interpenetrations that
> > become *legal* because the routers have to keep going. Thus, I conclude
> > that an interpenetration of a unit by routing LI is NOT a *burst
> through
> > by routers* and hence does not disorder the interpenetrated unit
> because
> > anyone can freely be interpenetrated by LI (whether routing or not).
> >
> > Am I reading this right? Or do routing LI count as *bursting through*
> > just because they're in rout, even though the interpentration would
> > otherwise be *legal*?
> >
> > I believe that either way, this could be clearer, and there is no
> > mention of it in the latest clarifications. Thanks.
>
> This doesn't seem unclear to me. 6.32 clearly identifies what
> happens when routers meet friendlies:
>
> 1. They interpenetrate normally, OR
> 2. They divert to a gap, OR
> 3. They burst through when all else fails.
>
> 6.521 specifically refers to 6.32 with regards to bursting through.
>
> Rich
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[joncleaves]

Yes. That unit would not be disordered.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: hrisikos@...
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 10:12:52 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: Rules Question for Jon


Thank you, Jon, but what about my question? Does that mean I'm right that
the unit interpenetrated by routing LI is NOT disordered? Thanks.


> Rich is correct. But at Greek's request, I will look at what might be
> done to make it more clear.
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rich Crosby
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 13:42:35 -0000
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Rules Question for Jon
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, hrisikos@D... wrote:
> > JOn:
> >
> > This came up in a recent game: 6.521 says you're disordered if
> > interpenetrated by any BUT LI, OR if you are BURST THROUGH by routers
> > (6.32). In then reading 6.32, one finds that bursting through appears
> to
> > relate only to otherwise unavoidable ILLEGAL interpenetrations that
> > become *legal* because the routers have to keep going. Thus, I conclude
> > that an interpenetration of a unit by routing LI is NOT a *burst
> through
> > by routers* and hence does not disorder the interpenetrated unit
> because
> > anyone can freely be interpenetrated by LI (whether routing or not).
> >
> > Am I reading this right? Or do routing LI count as *bursting through*
> > just because they're in rout, even though the interpentration would
> > otherwise be *legal*?
> >
> > I believe that either way, this could be clearer, and there is no
> > mention of it in the latest clarifications. Thanks.
>
> This doesn't seem unclear to me. 6.32 clearly identifies what
> happens when routers meet friendlies:
>
> 1. They interpenetrate normally, OR
> 2. They divert to a gap, OR
> 3. They burst through when all else fails.
>
> 6.521 specifically refers to 6.32 with regards to bursting through.
>
> Rich
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