Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

I've been trying to go back through the archives and do my due
dilligence looking on advice on building a Sassanid Persian army and
have heard more than a couple references to them being "cheesey"
(velveeta of imperial warrior etc…).

Just seeing what people think about that before diving in and buying
figures.

Also, are the Clibanarri/HC/EHC useful and a major part of the army
(as they were historically) or is this a case of taking the minimums
and trying not to get them killed while you are delivering the
elephant shock attack?

Thanks



Brinton

[Ewan McNay]

I'm probably the most prominent Sassanid player who posts regularly, I
guess; they're a strong army, and in particular you get elephant-proof
SHC/EHC which hit hard and are not available anywhere else (I think);
running them alongside elephants is a potent double-threat. That ability
to back your SHC with EHC is the only thing about the list that might be
regarded as cheese, I think.

On the other hand, there are many weaknesses: large minima, expensive
troops, all-irregular shock troops, and little-or-no terrain or
foot-missile capability. I've had to fight with it both against a Burmese
who got all four max-size jungles and against a Carthaginian with 4
max-sized woods, and it can get painful!

The Clibs are the key to the army, for me. The elephants are great
against enemy knights, but I would say that 80%+ of the time it is the SHC
that do the killing.

Of course, I manage to lose the SHC generals to disasters roughly once per
game...

E


Brinton wrote:

> I've been trying to go back through the archives and do my due
> dilligence looking on advice on building a Sassanid Persian army and
> have heard more than a couple references to them being "cheesey"
> (velveeta of imperial warrior etc…).
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> Just seeing what people think about that before diving in and buying
> figures.
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> Also, are the Clibanarri/HC/EHC useful and a major part of the army
> (as they were historically) or is this a case of taking the minimums
> and trying not to get them killed while you are delivering the
> elephant shock attack?
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> Thanks
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[Greg Regets]

Without making any commentary on any sort of dairy products, has anyone
ever found anything that would support the mixing of SHC with lesser
armored cavalry in this army?

I have been looking through every book I have on this period and
region, and just can't find anything. That is NOT TO SAY that is
doesn't exist, just that I haven't been able to find it.

This post is not a bitch about the list. I plan on making this army
some day to fight against my E.Byz ... I just want to know if there is
some really killer book out there that I don't own.

If you have the answer, you don't need to find the page, etc ... just
let me know what book it's in, and I will take it from there.

Thanks ... g

[Dave Lauerman]

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Greg Regets" <greg.regets@g...>
wrote:
>
> Without making any commentary on any sort of dairy products, has
anyone
> ever found anything that would support the mixing of SHC with lesser
> armored cavalry in this army?
>
Hello- I have no specific reference for you, but it DOES make sense.
The Persian Asavaran were basically a bunch of feudal nobles. They
would NOT have been organised by equipment, but by clan. Each great
noble would show up with his followers, and groups of these would
clump together into groups sort of like medieval "battles". In the
nature of things, richer and more important nobles would have better
and more extensive armor, and would tend to ride up front in the
position of honor. In a typically heterogenous lot, this would result
in fully armored horsemen (SHC) grouped in front of men with partial
horse-armor, of horse armor made of felt instead of horn of metal.
The SHC/EHC distinction is a bit artificial.Essential for game
play, of course, but the men themselves would have seen no distinction
between the two; just noble horsemen with more or less armor, and
better or less good armor, riding in the same body. dave lauerman