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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Seleucid List Questions


Scott,

After running Seleucid at Historicon, I had some questions concerning the list:

In the special Macedonian companion cavalry rules, it states that they apply to
"the Early Period of lists 27-28 and 30". Does this just cover the Agema and
Companions or does it include the Settler cav?

You are allowed up to 6 elements of Elephant Escorts, but in the early period
you can have up to 8 elephants. Is this a correct?

The arab levy are Irr D MI/LMI/LI JLS or B, with no shield. But in a later line,
you can give all JLS armed LI a shield. So, they drop their sheilds because they
decided to stand closer together? Or are they supposed to be excluded from this?

Finally, it looks like there is a discrepancy with the Cretan Archers. They are
listed as LI B, Sh @ 8 pts, which appears to be correct. The last line of the
list, the one which gives JLS and S armed LI a shield also grants one to the
Cretan Archers. The same problem exists in the Ptolemaic list.

Steve




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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Seleucid List Questions


In a message dated 03/11/2005 02:45:47 GMT Standard Time,
steve@... writes:

Scott,

After running Seleucid at Historicon, I had some questions concerning the
list:

In the special Macedonian companion cavalry rules, it states that they apply
to "the Early Period of lists 27-28 and 30". Does this just cover the Agema
and Companions or does it include the Settler cav?

You are allowed up to 6 elements of Elephant Escorts, but in the early
period you can have up to 8 elephants. Is this a correct?

The arab levy are Irr D MI/LMI/LI JLS or B, with no shield. But in a later
line, you can give all JLS armed LI a shield. So, they drop their sheilds
because they decided to stand closer together? Or are they supposed to be
excluded from this?

Finally, it looks like there is a discrepancy with the Cretan Archers. They
are listed as LI B, Sh @ 8 pts, which appears to be correct. The last line of
the list, the one which gives JLS and S armed LI a shield also grants one to
the Cretan Archers. The same problem exists in the Ptolemaic list.

Steve



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I had spotted some of these too, i would have thought the cretans would
start out unshielded with the option to upgrade, the same goes for the camels
(at
least the bow armed ones).

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:20 am    Post subject: Fw: Seleucid List Questions


I posted this about a month and a half ago, but haven't heard any response, so
I'd take another stab at it.
Steve
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From: "Steve Rawls" <steve@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:44:51 -0500
Subject: Seleucid List Questions

Scott,

After running Seleucid at Historicon, I had some questions concerning the list:

In the special Macedonian companion cavalry rules, it states that they apply to
"the Early Period of lists 27-28 and 30". Does this just cover the Agema and
Companions or does it include the Settler cav?

You are allowed up to 6 elements of Elephant Escorts, but in the early period
you can have up to 8 elephants. Is this correct? Should you have less escorts
than elephants?

The arab levy are Irr D MI/LMI/LI JLS or B, with no shield. But in a later line,
you can give all JLS armed LI a shield. So, they drop their shields because they
decided to stand closer together? Or are they supposed to be excluded from this?

Finally, it looks like there is a discrepancy with the Cretan Archers. They are
listed as LI B, Sh @ 8 pts, which appears to be correct. The last line of the
list, the one which gives JLS and S armed LI a shield also grants one to the
Cretan Archers. The same problem exists in the Ptolemaic list.

Steve

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 4:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Fw: Seleucid List Questions


> In the special Macedonian companion cavalry rules, it states that
> they apply to "the Early Period of lists 27-28 and 30". Does this
> just cover the Agema and Companions or does it include the Settler
> cav?

I've had this for action Steve, sorry it's taken me so long to
reply. It does not include Settler Cav. Take it very literally.

> You are allowed up to 6 elements of Elephant Escorts, but in the
early period you can have up to 8 elephants. Is this correct? Should
you have less escorts than elephants?

You should. That was *very* deliberate on our part.

> The arab levy are Irr D MI/LMI/LI JLS or B, with no shield. But in
> a later line, you can give all JLS armed LI a shield. So, they
>drop their shields because they decided to stand closer together?
>Or are they supposed to be excluded from this?

Again, read this very literally. JLS-armed LI get the shield, the
other guys do not. Believe me, I looked up every source I could on
getting the Arab levy just right. Lotsa time on that line item.

> Finally, it looks like there is a discrepancy with the Cretan
>Archers. They are listed as LI B, Sh @ 8 pts, which appears to be
>correct. The last line of the list, the one which gives JLS and S
>armed LI a shield also grants one to the Cretan Archers. The same
>problem exists in the Ptolemaic list.

Thanks for catching that. The change has been made although not
posted yet. I'm sitting on a load of erata until I get the cleaned
up Swiss stuff done.

scott


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