Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

I remember seeing a while back where it was stated that Swiss pikemen
become disordered when defeated in H To H combat.
Section 11.212 of the rules is contradictory in that it states that
loose formation foot recoil or break off. The next line then says that
Pikemen become disordered without recoil if not already disordered..
Does this mean that they become disordered and then either recoil or
break off? Does it mean that they behave like close formation and
become disordered without recoil if not already disordered?
Can this be clarified please.


Cheers...........Geoff

[joncleaves]

I know I have established a rep for immediate answers...lol But when it
comes to list rules, Scott and I have to coordinate on the answer, which isn't
always the same day. Please be patient.

Also, Cold Wars is about to take me out of the net for a few days.

J




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Any update on this question?

Cheers....Geoff

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "siwardrocks" <geoffcrick@o...>
wrote:
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> I remember seeing a while back where it was stated that Swiss pikemen
> become disordered when defeated in H To H combat.
> Section 11.212 of the rules is contradictory in that it states that
> loose formation foot recoil or break off. The next line then says that
> Pikemen become disordered without recoil if not already disordered..
> Does this mean that they become disordered and then either recoil or
> break off? Does it mean that they behave like close formation and
> become disordered without recoil if not already disordered?
> Can this be clarified please.
>
>
> Cheers...........Geoff

[joncleaves]

Sorry this took so long, but it was part of a strong relook of the Swiss within
our latest list errata work. Scott will be posting the errata to the lists soon
and this will be answered there along with other changes to the Swiss.

Bottom line: Swiss loose P or P/2HCT recoil when taking more casualties and 1CPF
as an exception to 11.212.

Thanks for your patience.
J

-----Original Message-----
From: siwardrocks <geoffcrick@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:16:11 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Swiss Pike rules question




I remember seeing a while back where it was stated that Swiss pikemen
become disordered when defeated in H To H combat.
Section 11.212 of the rules is contradictory in that it states that
loose formation foot recoil or break off. The next line then says that
Pikemen become disordered without recoil if not already disordered..
Does this mean that they become disordered and then either recoil or
break off? Does it mean that they behave like close formation and
become disordered without recoil if not already disordered?
Can this be clarified please.


Cheers...........Geoff










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[joncleaves]

Sorry this took so long, but it was part of a strong relook of the Swiss within
our latest list errata work. Scott will be posting the errata to the lists soon
and this will be answered there along with other changes to the Swiss.

Bottom line: Swiss loose P or P/2HCT recoil when taking more casualties and 1CPF
as an exception to 11.212.

Thanks for your patience.
J

-----Original Message-----
From: siwardrocks <geoffcrick@...>
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:16:11 -0000
Subject: [WarriorRules] Swiss Pike rules question




I remember seeing a while back where it was stated that Swiss pikemen
become disordered when defeated in H To H combat.
Section 11.212 of the rules is contradictory in that it states that
loose formation foot recoil or break off. The next line then says that
Pikemen become disordered without recoil if not already disordered..
Does this mean that they become disordered and then either recoil or
break off? Does it mean that they behave like close formation and
become disordered without recoil if not already disordered?
Can this be clarified please.


Cheers...........Geoff










Yahoo! Groups Links






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Thanks John. This outcome makes the most sense I think.


Cheers...........Geoff


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, JonCleaves@a... wrote:
> Sorry this took so long, but it was part of a strong relook of the
Swiss within our latest list errata work. Scott will be posting the
errata to the lists soon and this will be answered there along with
other changes to the Swiss.
>
> Bottom line: Swiss loose P or P/2HCT recoil when taking more
casualties and 1CPF as an exception to 11.212.
>
> Thanks for your patience.
> J
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: siwardrocks <geoffcrick@o...>
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 01 Apr 2005 17:16:11 -0000
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Swiss Pike rules question
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> I remember seeing a while back where it was stated that Swiss pikemen
> become disordered when defeated in H To H combat.
> Section 11.212 of the rules is contradictory in that it states that
> loose formation foot recoil or break off. The next line then says that
> Pikemen become disordered without recoil if not already disordered..
> Does this mean that they become disordered and then either recoil or
> break off? Does it mean that they behave like close formation and
> become disordered without recoil if not already disordered?
> Can this be clarified please.
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> Cheers...........Geoff
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