Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Doug]

>Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I agreed
>with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...

Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."

And putting single figures on washers could provide some color-- they
could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when you
go overtime on minutes.
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[Kelly Wilkinson]

I had considered using mine(Trapezitoi) as the yucky medium cavalry you have to
take for the Commenan list. The only problem is that my figures show multiple
spears in the shield hand which leads one to believe that the figure is a
Javelin armed type. Another possible use is as a later lombard as the lists say
these begin to look more byzantine as time goes by. Does anyone else have any
suggestions for their use in a Warrior list? I really would hate to have spent
all that time painting them and not have a use for them in Warrior. . . What
are some of you gents using your Trapezitoi as? Are there any historical troop
types out there that they can be passed off for?
kelly wilkinson

Doug <rockd@...> wrote:
>Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I agreed
>with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...

Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."

And putting single figures on washers could provide some color-- they
could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when you
go overtime on minutes.
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[Chris Bump]

In a message dated 3/3/2004 11:23:13 AM Central Standard Time,
Scott.Holder@... writes:
Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.

>Precisely my point. These figures aren't throwaway useless, far from it.
Thanks for you and Doug for pointing this out.

scott
I am painting a 25mm Nik army now. I am just glad it is not another troop
type that I would have to buy and paint.
Chris


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Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.



--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, kelly wilkinson
<jwilkinson62@y...> wrote:
> I had considered using mine(Trapezitoi) as the yucky medium cavalry
you have to take for the Commenan list. The only problem is that my
figures show multiple spears in the shield hand which leads one to
believe that the figure is a Javelin armed type. Another possible use
is as a later lombard as the lists say these begin to look more
byzantine as time goes by. Does anyone else have any suggestions for
their use in a Warrior list? I really would hate to have spent all
that time painting them and not have a use for them in Warrior. . .
What are some of you gents using your Trapezitoi as? Are there any
historical troop types out there that they can be passed off for?
> kelly
wilkinson
>
> Doug <rockd@p...> wrote:
> >Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I
agreed
> >with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...
>
> Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
> home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
> awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."
>
> And putting single figures on washers could provide some color--
they
> could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
> execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when
you
> go overtime on minutes.
> --
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>
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[scott holder]

Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.

>Precisely my point. These figures aren't throwaway useless, far from it.
Thanks for you and Doug for pointing this out.

scott

Must be a Nikephorian rennaissance going on here. I too am painting
up a 25mm Nike army. Perhaps the new "sleeper" "spoiler" army at the
Cons...

And I'll bet no two of us have the same option selection.

;)

Wanax

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, cncbump@a... wrote:

> scott
> I am painting a 25mm Nik army now. I am just glad it is not
another troop
> type that I would have to buy and paint.
> Chris

[Kelly Wilkinson]

Does anyone else have any suggestions? For some reason, mixing them with EHC is
not appealing. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
kelly

"Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@...> wrote:
Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.

>Precisely my point. These figures aren't throwaway useless, far from it.
Thanks for you and Doug for pointing this out.

scott


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[Greg Regets]

We have two San Antonio players already playing this in 15mm, and
another building it.

This is knight heaven around here, and the loose/open order slingers,
and HC that can skirmish are the big attraction, I think.

We have found the HI quazi-Legionaries to be quite formitable, if you
get them on the right target.

Myself, I'm doing Early Byz. Not quite as good as Nike but the 15mm
figures from Museum for Early Byz are the bomb!

g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Wanax Andron"
<spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Must be a Nikephorian rennaissance going on here. I too am
painting
> up a 25mm Nike army. Perhaps the new "sleeper" "spoiler" army at
the
> Cons...
>
> And I'll bet no two of us have the same option selection.
>
>
>
> Wanax
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, cncbump@a... wrote:
>
> > scott
> > I am painting a 25mm Nik army now. I am just glad it is not
> another troop
> > type that I would have to buy and paint.
> > Chris

[Harlan Garrett]

You could continue to used them down in Texas. <<<Wink, Wink>>>

Harlan

-----Original Message-----
From: kelly wilkinson [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:21 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Trapezitoi- uses for the figures


Does anyone else have any suggestions? For some reason, mixing them with EHC
is not appealing. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
kelly

"Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@...> wrote:
Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.

>Precisely my point. These figures aren't throwaway useless, far from
>it. Thanks for you and Doug for pointing this out.

scott


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[Kelly Wilkinson]

True enough Harlan, but then I don't get the cool javelins and the other neat
stuff. Oh well, I suppose that will have to be answer. . .

kelly

"Harlan D. Garrett" <Harlan.D.Garrett@...> wrote:
You could continue to used them down in Texas. <<<Wink, Wink>>>

Harlan

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From: kelly wilkinson [mailto:jwilkinson62@...]
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 1:21 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [WarriorRules] Re: Trapezitoi- uses for the figures


Does anyone else have any suggestions? For some reason, mixing them with EHC
is not appealing. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
kelly

"Holder, Scott" <Scott.Holder@...> wrote:
Nothing says they can't be combined with other EHC type figs to
balance out what was probably a reality of variation of equipment.
Especially in the Themes and in all post Nike lists.

>Precisely my point. These figures aren't throwaway useless, far from
>it. Thanks for you and Doug for pointing this out.

scott


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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Hey Greg,

Are the Museum Skutatoi as good as the Essex?

kelly



Greg Regets <greg.regets@...> wrote:
We have two San Antonio players already playing this in 15mm, and
another building it.

This is knight heaven around here, and the loose/open order slingers,
and HC that can skirmish are the big attraction, I think.

We have found the HI quazi-Legionaries to be quite formitable, if you
get them on the right target.

Myself, I'm doing Early Byz. Not quite as good as Nike but the 15mm
figures from Museum for Early Byz are the bomb!

g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Wanax Andron"
<spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> Must be a Nikephorian rennaissance going on here. I too am
painting
> up a 25mm Nike army. Perhaps the new "sleeper" "spoiler" army at
the
> Cons...
>
> And I'll bet no two of us have the same option selection.
>
>
>
> Wanax
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, cncbump@a... wrote:
>
> > scott
> > I am painting a 25mm Nik army now. I am just glad it is not
> another troop
> > type that I would have to buy and paint.
> > Chris


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[Greg Regets]

Museum only makes two kinds of figure lines;

a) guys that look half starved riding a pony they got for Christmas.

b) some of the best 15mm figures I have ever seen.

The Early Byz are the latter, but they are definately Early period
dress.

g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, kelly wilkinson
<jwilkinson62@y...> wrote:
> Hey Greg,
>
> Are the Museum Skutatoi as good as the Essex?
>
> kelly
>
>
>
> Greg Regets <greg.regets@g...> wrote:
> We have two San Antonio players already playing this in 15mm, and
> another building it.
>
> This is knight heaven around here, and the loose/open order
slingers,
> and HC that can skirmish are the big attraction, I think.
>
> We have found the HI quazi-Legionaries to be quite formitable, if
you
> get them on the right target.
>
> Myself, I'm doing Early Byz. Not quite as good as Nike but the 15mm
> figures from Museum for Early Byz are the bomb!
>
> g
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Wanax Andron"
> <spocksleftball@y...> wrote:
> > Must be a Nikephorian rennaissance going on here. I too am
> painting
> > up a 25mm Nike army. Perhaps the new "sleeper" "spoiler" army at
> the
> > Cons...
> >
> > And I'll bet no two of us have the same option selection.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wanax
> >
> > --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, cncbump@a... wrote:
> >
> > > scott
> > > I am painting a 25mm Nik army now. I am just glad it is not
> > another troop
> > > type that I would have to buy and paint.
> > > Chris
>
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[Ed Kollmer]

I think I have the same figures . They have multiple spears in the shield
hand and a lance around the back??
I was thinking of using them as Vardaroits(spelling??) in a later byzantine
list.



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From: "kelly wilkinson" <jwilkinson62@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Trapezitoi- uses for the figures


I had considered using mine(Trapezitoi) as the yucky medium cavalry you have
to take for the Commenan list. The only problem is that my figures show
multiple spears in the shield hand which leads one to believe that the
figure is a Javelin armed type. Another possible use is as a later lombard
as the lists say these begin to look more byzantine as time goes by. Does
anyone else have any suggestions for their use in a Warrior list? I really
would hate to have spent all that time painting them and not have a use for
them in Warrior. . . What are some of you gents using your Trapezitoi as?
Are there any historical troop types out there that they can be passed off
for?
kelly wilkinson

Doug <rockd@...> wrote:
>Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I agreed
>with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...

Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."

And putting single figures on washers could provide some color-- they
could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when you
go overtime on minutes.
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[Kelly Wilkinson]

Ed,
That's not a bad Idea! Jake Kovel sells 15mm bow cases and I could glue
some on and there you have it! I wonder what a vardariot looks like. . .

edward kollmer <ekollmer@...> wrote:
I think I have the same figures . They have multiple spears in the shield
hand and a lance around the back??
I was thinking of using them as Vardaroits(spelling??) in a later byzantine
list.



----- Original Message -----
From: "kelly wilkinson" <jwilkinson62@...>
To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:54 AM
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Trapezitoi- uses for the figures


I had considered using mine(Trapezitoi) as the yucky medium cavalry you have
to take for the Commenan list. The only problem is that my figures show
multiple spears in the shield hand which leads one to believe that the
figure is a Javelin armed type. Another possible use is as a later lombard
as the lists say these begin to look more byzantine as time goes by. Does
anyone else have any suggestions for their use in a Warrior list? I really
would hate to have spent all that time painting them and not have a use for
them in Warrior. . . What are some of you gents using your Trapezitoi as?
Are there any historical troop types out there that they can be passed off
for?
kelly wilkinson

Doug <rockd@...> wrote:
>Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I agreed
>with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...

Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."

And putting single figures on washers could provide some color-- they
could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when you
go overtime on minutes.
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Of course, if you can't find a use for them, I'd be glad to warehouse
them for you ;)

wanax

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, kelly wilkinson
<jwilkinson62@y...> wrote:
> Ed,
> That's not a bad Idea! Jake Kovel sells 15mm bow cases and I
could glue some on and there you have it! I wonder what a vardariot
looks like. . .
>
> edward kollmer <ekollmer@n...> wrote:
> I think I have the same figures . They have multiple spears in the
shield
> hand and a lance around the back??
> I was thinking of using them as Vardaroits(spelling??) in a later
byzantine
> list.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "kelly wilkinson" <jwilkinson62@y...>
> To: <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 3:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Trapezitoi- uses for the figures
>
>
> I had considered using mine(Trapezitoi) as the yucky medium cavalry
you have
> to take for the Commenan list. The only problem is that my figures
show
> multiple spears in the shield hand which leads one to believe that
the
> figure is a Javelin armed type. Another possible use is as a later
lombard
> as the lists say these begin to look more byzantine as time goes
by. Does
> anyone else have any suggestions for their use in a Warrior list? I
really
> would hate to have spent all that time painting them and not have a
use for
> them in Warrior. . . What are some of you gents using your
Trapezitoi as?
> Are there any historical troop types out there that they can be
passed off
> for?
> kelly
wilkinson
>
> Doug <rockd@p...> wrote:
> >Why? It was his intepretation of the record, and one that I agreed
> >with (fwiw), that the trapezetoi >operated more as scouts...
>
> Sounds like some of the well-painted Trapezetoi figures would be at
> home on a General's staff element base, giving their report or
> awaiting dispatch "over the next hill."
>
> And putting single figures on washers could provide some color--
they
> could be placed next to a General to "count down" his being able to
> execute orders "next bound but one" or however it is phrased when
you
> go overtime on minutes.
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