Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Kelly Wilkinson]

My point exactly,
Most folks like to play with their own lead. I know I take more pride
in my own figures! Couldn't we have a 15mm event? Why push the 25's so hard?

Kelly
vaughn mccurry <vaughn_mccurry@...> wrote:All i play is 15's , i even
started working on a 10mm army to build towards
a warrior army..... i purchased it since having the great amount of lead at
a cheap rate let me also field this army for both dbm and warrior.



Regards,
Vaughn McCurry




>From: kelly wilkinson <jwilkinson62@...>
>Reply-To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] TwisterCon
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 04:17:44 -0800 (PST)
>
>
>I must agree with Jon, (this happens too frequently nowadays), Most noobs
>that are sucked into the hobby start out with 15mm for the cost and space
>availability. To simply exclude 15mm will cut your numbers. Further, When
>Jake Kovel and I were in regular attendance to Twistercon, I seem to
>remember that the majority of ancients players in attendance were 15mm
>players.
> Kelly
>
> JonCleaves@... wrote:man, two weeks after cold wars...tough
>
>just 25's on saturday will leave out 10 of 12 of us in KC. I have 10 new
>players, but they all have 15mm warrior/FanWar armies and have not the
>resources to do 25mm armies yet (one step at a time...)
>
>I may not be able to convinve many of them to go in any case, but if we
>don't have a 15mm event on sat I am sure I will not.
>
>I am still planning on being there and trying to drag Scott with me.
>
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[Chris Bump]

I must respectfully disagree. 25mm has been the proposed scale since we
started talking about this tournament last May. This is not a tournament to
add to the list of tournaments around the country. We are not trying to find
a venue to bring the guys from middle america and the southwest together,
although this promises to work very nicely for that.

The biggest reason for our decision to put this on was recruiting. 15mm does
not recruit well. People walk by and see little masses of lead and ASSUME it
is so much more DBx. Aesthetics are lost on 15's, Dave Smith and Greg Regets
aside. But even when there is beautiful work in 15's laid out, it is often
just not recognized.

There are very few WAB guys playing in 15mm and yet their numbers grow. We
know from our last 2 events that 25mm games draw interest. Just look to
Historicon for confirmation of this. We have new players down here who are
building 25mm armies. We want to increase this aspect of the hobby.

Patrick is the final arbiter on this decision and I am only offering my
opinion, but I am firmly in the camp of this should be a 25mm event. Paint
an army, buy one on ebay or borrow one. There are numerous 15mm tournaments
around the country. Let this one be the 25mm event we set in motion. With
time this, like all others, will probably morph into a multi scale event, but
to start with I believe we should be focused on a single scale and
recruiting.

Chris

In a message dated 12/20/2002 4:20:30 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jwilkinson62@... writes:

> I must agree with Jon, (this happens too frequently nowadays), Most noobs
> that are sucked into the hobby start out with 15mm for the cost and space
> availability. To simply exclude 15mm will cut your numbers. Further, When
> Jake Kovel and I were in regular attendance to Twistercon, I seem to
> remember that the majority of ancients players in attendance were 15mm
> players.
>



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Who's Dave Smith?


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[joncleaves]

I am making NO promises til I get a damn date and location for this
thing....lol

Nor can I do any recruiting when I can't tell anyone anything about it.


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Jon/Scott,

I might be able to attend if I could know what the dates are.

Jamie
Phantom Raider 6


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[scott holder]

The biggest reason for our decision to put this on was recruiting. 15mm does
not recruit well. But even when there is beautiful work in 15's laid out, it
is often just not recognized. There are very few WAB guys playing in 15mm an
d yet their numbers grow. We
know from our last 2 events that 25mm games draw interest. Just look to
Historicon for confirmation of this. We have new players down here who are bu
ilding 25mm armies. We want to increase this aspect of the hobby.

Patrick is the final arbiter on this decision and I am only offering my
opinion, but I am firmly in the camp of this should be a 25mm event. Paint
an army, buy one on ebay or borrow one.

>Hear hear! Again, I'll loan all my 25mm lead if that's what it takes. I kno
w from past experience that *we* look better in terms of display, generating a
buzz, etc., if we do this in 25mm. Most of the guys who were 15mm players th
at *had* to make the switch to 25mm if for nothing else than the NICT (Rob Tur
nball being my favorite example) have never looked back. I will do whatever i
t takes to put people in an army they won't mind running for a weekend, in 25m
m. I only wish I had more to loan!

>Right now, we've got 3 people coming down (Jon, me, Todd) and planning on pla
ying 25mm (at least on Saturday, if Friday is FW, I personally don't care what
scale although it is awfully DBA-like in terms of how it looks to others when
run in 15mm). Hopefully that'll be more once Jon canvasses the troops.

Scott
25mm Ho

[Kelly Wilkinson]

I will do whatever i
t takes to put people in an army they won't mind running for a weekend, in 25m
m. I only wish I had more to loan!




So... Scott, Does this mean you'll loan me an army to play? . . . ;)

Kelly



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[Kelly Wilkinson]

lol! www.minwars.com

DAVBEE217@... wrote:Who's Dave Smith?


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[Kelly Wilkinson]

cncbump@... wrote:
We are not trying to find
a venue to bring the guys from middle america and the southwest together,
although this promises to work very nicely for that.

The biggest reason for our decision to put this on was recruiting.

[>>Okay, but if you are using this as a recruiting event and the majority of
ancients players in the area that you are recruiting from use 15mm, I
respectfully cannot understand how you will be successful in your endeavor by
excluding the favored scale of that area. . .]


There are very few WAB guys playing in 15mm[>>I don't know of any that do play
with 15mm since the rules are made for 25mm almost exclusively!] and yet their
numbers grow.[>> They grow because Warhammer Ancient Battles is a familiar
system to that of their fantasy game!]

We
know from our last 2 events that 25mm games draw interest. Just look to
Historicon for confirmation of this. We have new players down here who are
building 25mm armies. We want to increase this aspect of the hobby.

>>I agree that we want to increase this hobby. But look to Kansas City and what
Jon is doing. He seems to have brought over many new players from the fantasy
end and they all seem to be 15mm guys.

Paint
an army, buy one on ebay or borrow one. There are numerous 15mm tournaments
around the country. Let this one be the 25mm event we set in motion. With
time this, like all others, will probably morph into a multi scale event, but
to start with I believe we should be focused on a single scale and
recruiting.

Chris


>>Chris, by merely focusing on 25mm you will exclude the target population that
you are trying to recruit! This is folly! Sure, many like to look at 25mm. It's
pretty, but this is the Mid-West and people out here are less extravagant with
their dollars than those back East or out West. Most every new player I've known
has started out in 15mm. Perhaps increasing 25mm attendance at flagship
conventions should be pushed harder with the fish that are already hooked rather
than the noobie who doesn't want break the bank for a 25mm army. . .

Kelly



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[Patrick Byrne]

I have uploaded an updated TwisterCon information.

Dates and Warrior information remains unchanged.

Hope to see you all there!
-PB

[Kelly Wilkinson]

thanks Pat!
Kelly
Patrick <cuan@...> wrote:I have uploaded an updated TwisterCon information.

Dates and Warrior information remains unchanged.

Hope to see you all there!
-PB


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