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Todd Kaeser Centurion


Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 1218 Location: Foxborough, Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Hawaiian |
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I have just placed Ed Bernard's thoughts regarding a Hawaiian list in the New World Warrior section. It is very unique and an interesting fun army . Hope you all would enjoy it.
Todd _________________ Nolite te Bastardes Carborundorum
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Mark Stone Moderator


Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 2102 Location: Buckley, WA
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Hawaiian |
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Todd Kaeser wrote: |
I have just placed Ed Bernard's thoughts regarding a Hawaiian list in the New World Warrior section. It is very unique and an interesting fun army . Hope you all would enjoy it.
Todd |
Editorial nitpick: uniqueness, by definition, does not allow degrees of uniqueness; hence, nothing can be "very unique".
But the list looks pretty cool. I'd certainly be willing to sanction its use in California events, if anyone were interested in giving it a try.
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Todd Kaeser Centurion


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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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Mark,
That's why I teach Social Studies and not English
Unique being in the form of shieldless troops - something you don't see a lot of in people's armies these days.
Ed ran the list a few years ago and held his own. There were a few stone walls and tons of terrain on the board. There are figures out there to make the list http://eurekamin.com.au/index.php?cPath=87_102_689&sort=3a at least in 15mm.
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Todd Schneider Centurion

Joined: 12 Apr 2006 Posts: 904 Location: Kansas City
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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Are the Ihe or La’au Palau Warriors MI, LMI, HI? The list does not say?
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Todd Schneider Centurion

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Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Are the Ihe or La’au Palau Warriors MI, LMI, HI? The list does not say, but judging from the FW list they should be LMI?
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Todd Kaeser Centurion


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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:06 pm Post subject: |
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Ihe or La’au Palau Warriors should be LMI - my bad
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Adrian Williams Recruit

Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Sydney, Australia
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Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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Did these guys ever put a significant army sized force in the field?
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Todd Kaeser Centurion


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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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"Kamehameha, the great warrior, who invaded Maui in 1790 and finally, 20 years later, subdued all the Hawaiian islands, occupies a special place in the history of Hawai'i. Conqueror, king, statesman and lawgiver, Kamehameha (circa 1758-1819) has been called the Napoleon of the Pacific."
http://www.janesoceania.com/hawaii_kamehameha/index.htm
http://hawaiiantrading.com/herb-kane/pages/battle-at-nuuanu-pali.html
I'm not sure of the actual sizes of their armies, but the above site is a famous battle w/ the pikemen of the Hawaiian armies under Kamehameha. They made excellent use of canoes in their attacks as well.
I would have to look into this some more, but it would be a colorful army.
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ELB Recruit

Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 8 Location: Allentown, PA
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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Hawaiian Army size |
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Adrian Williams wrote: |
Did these guys ever put a significant army sized force in the field?
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The difficulty in answering this question, (particularly for the Warrior rules period), is that nearly all of Hawaiian history was passed down in an oral format rather than a written one. Todd's reply to this question does provide some insight on potential army size.
I noticed that I failed to provide a bibliography of my research. I will compose one and email anyone who may be interested in it.
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ELB Recruit

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Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: Hawaiian Army size |
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Adrian Williams wrote: |
Did these guys ever put a significant army sized force in the field?
ANW |
The difficulty in answering this question, (particularly for the Warrior rules period), is that nearly all of Hawaiian history was passed down in an oral format rather than a written one. Todd's reply to this question does provide some insight on potential army size.
I noticed that I failed to provide a bibliography of my research. I will compose one and email anyone who may be interested in it.
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DBBeatty Recruit


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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:06 am Post subject: Hawaiian figure sources |
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Bloodaxe makes some cool Hawaiian figures in 15mm very reasonably priced - http://www.bloodaxeminiatures.com/products.shtml
Eureka's 15mm Hawaiians are very cool (better sculpted than Bloodaxe) but about five times as expensive.
There were between 250,000 and 1 million people living in the Hawaiian Islands at first contact with Europeans, and they fielded reasonably large armies - upwards of 12,000 warriors per side at the historical battle of Nu'uanu in 1795 (still using traditional Hawaiian weapons plus a couple of cannon).
I just finished painting 356 Hawaiian 15mm figures for a big DBA game at Enfilade in May 2013 - come have a look! _________________ Life is too short to drink bad beer. |
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