Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

scott holder · Last edited by scott holder on Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:25 pm; edited 3 times in total

Updated to reflect the year of each theme.

THE BRONZE AGE -- 2017
End date is 1001 BC so no L Hebrews, demi-god Assyrians, etc. Will be weighted.

1-Early Dynastic Sumerian
2-Old/Middle Kingdom Egyptian
3-Elamite: Early Dynastic, Old Elamite, Middle Periods (no LC from Middle Period, thus ignore the listed minimum)
4-Nubian: Early, Middle Periods
5-Libyan: Early, Middle Periods
6-Highland Barbarians
7-Bedouin Foot Nomads
8-Makkan
9-Early Syrian
10-Akkadian/Later Sumerian
11-Old Babylonian/Old Assyrian
12-Kassite Babylonian
13-Bedouin Tribes (Midianite)
14-Hyksos
15-Early Canaanite, Ugaritic, Syrian: No LC
16-Hittite
17-Mittannian: No LC
18-Anatolian States
19-Mycenaean/Minoan Greek
20-NKE: No LC
21-Middle Assyrian: No LC; Late Period not allowed
22-Early Hebrew
23-Sea Peoples
24-Philistine/Late Canaanite: No LC
25-Neo-Hittitle/Aramaean Syrian: No LC; Late Period not allowed
26-Dark Age/Geometric Greek: No Thracians
28-Neo-Babylonian: Early Period. No LC. Assyrian Infantry Rules not in effect.

DOGS OF WAR -- 2018
Straight from the rules (14.82) except D Class threshold will be 45%, not 40%. If you purchase something like stakes, caltrops, etc., for a unit, the cost of those only count toward the 45% threshold if the unit is entirely "D".

TEUTONIC KNIGHTS -- 2019
Will definitely be weighted and we might tweak a couple of the lists.

Feudal Warrior:
1-Prussian
2-Lithanian/Samogitian
3-Feudal German
5-Early Pole
7-Early Russian
11-Med Scandinavian
19-Later Polish
20-Early Teuts
23-Post Mongol Russian
25-Holy Roman Imperial (Early only)
33-Late Teuts

Oriental Warrior:
35-Mongol

ELEPHANTS -- 2020
You have to field at least 8 elephants. There could be some weighting.

Classical Warrior:
23-Alex Imperial
24-Asiatic E Successor
25-Lysimachid
27-Seleucid
34-Later Carthaginian
35-Bactrian Greek
36-Numidian

Imperial Warrior:
10-Marian Roman (all listed elephants may be used)

Holy Warrior:
8-Ghaznavid

Oriental Warrior:
5-Early Vietnamese
7-Early Indian
18-Burmese
20-Champa
26-Khmer
31-Medieval Vietnamese
36-Sultanate of Delhi/Lodi Indian
41-Vijayanagara Indian

Todd Kaeser · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:01 pm Post subject:

Crusades????

Mark Stone · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:55 pm Post subject:

Terry D · Recruit Joined: 18 Jul 2008 Posts: 77

We just did a knight theme 2Hcon ago, with the Teutonic s a crusader theme would be 3 in 6 years too many knights
All the themes are awesome ideas, I'm looking forward to seeing how the new Teutonic lists work out. The Elephants idea looks to be the most fun. Hopefully it Will provide the most varied lists.

Ewan McNay · Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:52 pm Post subject:

Wot no Sassanids? Confused

scott holder · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:12 pm Post subject:

That's right, no Sassanids. Why? They can't field 8 elephants.

Boo effing hoo. Rolling Eyes

scott

Ewan McNay · Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:19 pm Post subject:

And a happy holiday season to you too, Grinch Holder Razz

Rickster61 · Recruit Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Florida

Wow, I might have to dust off my Medieval Vietnamese!

jamiepwhite · Recruit Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 213 Location: Florida

Just for fun, you should have a small prize for whoever's list puts the most elephant models on the table.

You could call the award 50 models of grey. Smile

Rickster61 · Recruit Joined: 12 Jul 2006 Posts: 14 Location: Florida

In honor of the Biblical theme, I priced out a Midianite Arab army from Essex. Not including any shipping or possible discount, it came to almost $1400.00. Guess I'm not going to buy that army unless I hit a decent sized lottery!

Historian · Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:25 pm Post subject:

Has anyone coalesced a list of potential "Dogs of War" armies?

lilroblis · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:21 pm Post subject: Dogs of war

I am assuming if any non D in units - the unit cost is only D';'s and command costs doo not count - but this was not stated?

Historian · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:18 am Post subject:

command points and specials, like stakes, DO count, if the unit is entirely D. But it you upgrade one element to C then no.

scott holder · Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 11:27 am Post subject:

Gee Phil, you asked this exact same question back in 2016 prior to the Cold Wars Mini Dogs tourney. Frank provided an answer that should get you pointed in the right direction:

http://www.fourhorsemenenterprises.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=78858#78858

One potential change: I've said 45% instead of the 40% as stated in the rule book. My current thinking is to go with a straight 700pts of D class troops out of the 1600.

scott

Historian · Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:30 pm Post subject:

Great list Scott, thanks for the link.