Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

jhill4913@comcast.net · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:26 pm Post subject: Artillery effects

As a new player, I've heard that artillery and handguns cause detrimental effects, like waiver checks but can't find it in the rules. Can you help me?

scott holder · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:29 pm Post subject:

Page 91, last bullet.

jhill4913@comcast.net · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:45 pm Post subject:

Can Bombards shoot elephants over intervening friends?

How many ranks firing do skirmishing LI HG units get?

scott holder · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:58 pm Post subject:

scott holder · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:03 pm Post subject:

Here's the original post (from the old Yahoo group) in 2005:

http://www.fourhorsemenenterprises.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12535&highlight=overhead+shooting+elephants

That's only if you want to see the discussion. The post I referenced above answers the actual question.

My search terms:

overhead shooting elephants

Make sure you click on "search for all terms".

scott

jhill4913@comcast.net · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:55 pm Post subject:

So what possible use would there be for artillery that can only shoot at targets directly to their front, without intervening troops? Even from a hilltop?

lilroblis · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:55 pm Post subject: Shooting at elephants

You cannot shoot over friends - but you can shoot over enemies unless the elephants are within 40 paces of a friendly body to them- if your bombards were on carts (dont know that troops exist) - but I believe you could then shoot over your troops - similarly if you are on a hill you can shoot over your troops - thats at least how I understand it

scott holder · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject:

Frank Gilson · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:55 am Post subject: lot's of separate rules

You have to read the rules on overhead shooting, shooting priorities and then rulse on artillery specifically...and effects of fire. Note that no one counts shielded to artillery fire, so that's the key effect of prep shot from artillery on many troops (to cause a waver to various troop types).

Artillery also have a very long range of fire...and can be placed angled to shoot across a great section of the enemy army. It's a mistake to place them firing straight forward.

Consider a general's staff element attached to the artillery to guide fire.

jamiepwhite · Recruit Joined: 21 Apr 2006 Posts: 213 Location: Florida

Hussite I think is an example army that could put bombards into fighting wagons. However, the paragraph on who is permitted to shoot overhead only lists stone throwers and bolt shooters, bombards are left out.

scott holder · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:25 pm Post subject:

Hussite artillery are mounted in Integral Tr. There's *no* historical justification for having them in Fighting Tr.

I'll be the first to admit that if somebody emailed me a bunch of ideas on how to make Hussites playable, I'll read that email. Wink

scott

jhill4913@comcast.net · Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:53 pm Post subject:

I'm going to take Scott's advice and leave my bombards unpainted for a while.