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Todd Schneider Centurion

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:35 am Post subject: LTS/P penalty question |
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Jon,
A Hand to Hand Question.
A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
Steady Unit with LTS/P.
When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?
Thanks,
Todd
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John Murphy Legate

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:41 am Post subject: Re: LTS/P penalty question |
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Hey, that _is_ a good question. Jon, would you answer this on-list,
or if answered off-line would you CC me please?
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
> Steady Unit with LTS/P.
> When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
> the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?
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joncleaves Moderator


Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 16447
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: LTS/P penalty question |
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Jon,
A Hand to Hand Question.
A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
Steady Unit with LTS/P.
When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?>>
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Right. The JLSers do take that -2.
Jon
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Recruit

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: Re: Re: LTS/P penalty question |
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I think that the second rank with JLS are throwing javelins overhead, so no -2
aply (thy are not in contact).
Emilio Moskowich
A Coruña, Spain
Hey, that _is_ a good question. Jon, would you answer this on-list,
or if answered off-line would you CC me please?
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
> Steady Unit with LTS/P.
> When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
> the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?
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Todd Schneider Centurion

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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:10 pm Post subject: RE: Re: LTS/P penalty question |
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Emilio,
I would like Jon to clarify this part as well, but I believe the combat
mechanism would be as follows:
I have a 6E Unit of Irr C MI ½ HTW, B, Sh; ½ JLS, B, Sh impetuously charging
a 6E unit of Reg C MI LTS, Sh.
Both Units are 3E wide by 2E Deep.
My HTH Combat would be as follows:
The front rank 12 figs using HTW vs. MI is 5. Close Charging Impetuously
is +1, to 6, foot charging is +1, to 7. The Front Rank would be 12@7
The Back rank would be 6 figs of other foot against MI, 3. Charging and
Close impetuous are both +1, to 5. JLS against MI is +1 to 6. Facing
steady LTS is -2 to 4.
The combat would be 12@7 and 6@4.
The bonus for using JLS does lessen the effect of the steady LTS.
Todd
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From: EMILIO MOSKOWICH [mailto:escalat@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:53 AM
To: warriorrules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: LTS/P penalty question
I think that the second rank with JLS are throwing javelins overhead, so no
-2 aply (thy are not in contact).
Emilio Moskowich
A Coruña, Spain
Hey, that _is_ a good question. Jon, would you answer this on-list,
or if answered off-line would you CC me please?
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
> Steady Unit with LTS/P.
> When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
> the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?
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Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 6:50 pm Post subject: Re: RE: Re: LTS/P penalty question |
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Hi Todd
I understand your mecanism, but my personal view is that:
1st: the HTW volley negates the -2 for facing LTS
2nd: the second rank with javelins is NOT in contact with the LTS, and is
throwing javelins overhead the first rank, so negates the -2 too.
But this is my opinion on how the combat works, not criticism on the rules.
Moreover, I don´t own WARRIOR, but WRG 7th, and I don´t know all the diferences
betwen the two rulesets.
Greetings.
Emilio.
Emilio,
I would like Jon to clarify this part as well, but I believe the combat
mechanism would be as follows:
I have a 6E Unit of Irr C MI ½ HTW, B, Sh; ½ JLS, B, Sh impetuously charging
a 6E unit of Reg C MI LTS, Sh.
Both Units are 3E wide by 2E Deep.
My HTH Combat would be as follows:
The front rank 12 figs using HTW vs. MI is 5. Close Charging Impetuously
is +1, to 6, foot charging is +1, to 7. The Front Rank would be 12@7
The Back rank would be 6 figs of other foot against MI, 3. Charging and
Close impetuous are both +1, to 5. JLS against MI is +1 to 6. Facing
steady LTS is -2 to 4.
The combat would be 12@7 and 6@4.
The bonus for using JLS does lessen the effect of the steady LTS.
Todd
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From: EMILIO MOSKOWICH [mailto:escalat@...]
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:53 AM
To: warriorrules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [WarriorRules] Re: LTS/P penalty question
I think that the second rank with JLS are throwing javelins overhead, so no
-2 aply (thy are not in contact).
Emilio Moskowich
A Coruña, Spain
Hey, that _is_ a good question. Jon, would you answer this on-list,
or if answered off-line would you CC me please?
--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, Todd Schneider
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> A Unit of 1/2 HTW Sh, 1/2 JLS Shield is fighting a
> Steady Unit with LTS/P.
> When figuring out the comabt, only those elements with
> the HTW ignore the -2 for facing steady LTS/P, right?
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