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				 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:18 pm    Post subject: Darts | 
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I would like to know which armies are allowed darts and for which
 
troop types in each army.
 
 
Thanks.
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2001 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Darts | 
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Gee Perry, is that all?  Heh heh heh.  I can't give you an answer for that as
 
yet since in many cases, it won't be determined until the army lists are
 
actually drafted.  Some of the Biblical Warrior armies will have "darts" to
 
include the friggin Neo-Assyrians although I still strongly feel they
 
shouldn't.  Some of the Byzantine armies in Dark Age Warrior will also have
 
"real darts".
 
 
I can say that who uses darts is spelled out specifically in the lists in
 
question.
 
 
There, wasn't that (un)helpful?  >grin<
 
 
>>> perry_gray@... 10/16/01 8:17:00 AM >>>
 
I would like to know which armies are allowed darts and for which
 
troop types in each army.
 
 
Thanks.
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 3:01 am    Post subject: Re: Darts | 
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> I would like to know which armies are allowed darts and for which
 
> troop types in each army.
 
>
 
> Thanks.
 
 
LIR.  Just about all the troops get them.  Awesome to skirmish your auxilla
 
at 80p!!!
 
 
Don
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 4:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Darts | 
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Scott,
 
 
As always, your comments are about as clear as bilge water.  Do you
 
work for an agency that likes to obfuscate everything?
 
 
I agree that the Assyrians did use darts, but all my sources suggest
 
that only the chariots carried the siltahi.
 
 
As for the Byzantines, many believe that as the successors to the
 
Roman armies, that they kept the darts in the arsenal.  This is
 
harder to prove with historical data.
 
 
Perry
 
 
 
--- In WarriorRules@y..., "Holder, Scott <FHWA>" <Scott.Holder@f...>
 
wrote:
 
> Gee Perry, is that all?  Heh heh heh.  I can't give you an answer
 
for that as
 
> yet since in many cases, it won't be determined until the army
 
lists are
 
> actually drafted.  Some of the Biblical Warrior armies will
 
have "darts" to
 
> include the friggin Neo-Assyrians although I still strongly feel
 
they
 
> shouldn't.  Some of the Byzantine armies in Dark Age Warrior will
 
also have
 
> "real darts".
 
>
 
> I can say that who uses darts is spelled out specifically in the
 
lists in
 
> question.
 
>
 
> There, wasn't that (un)helpful?  >grin<
 
>
 
> >>> perry_gray@h... 10/16/01 8:17:00 AM >>>
 
> I would like to know which armies are allowed darts and for which
 
> troop types in each army.
 
>
 
> Thanks.
 
>
 
>
 
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				 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2001 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Darts | 
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As always, your comments are about as clear as bilge water.  Do you
 
work for an agency that likes to obfuscate everything?
 
 
>My point is that at this stage in list development, I'm in no position to say
 
exactly what troop types in what lists will have darts.  Being done with 2
 
army list books and 5 more to do (plus the free New World army lists), I can't
 
specify who will retain/get darts.  See next comment.
 
 
I agree that the Assyrians did use darts, but all my sources suggest
 
that only the chariots carried the siltahi.
 
 
> I couldn't agree more. Moreover, I feel the siltahi is better represented as
 
JLS in Warrior as opposed to D and the appropriate Assyrian list will reflect
 
that.  It gets dicier when it comes to the foot.  The still good Ian Heath
 
book flatly states Assyrian foot carried darts but nowhere does he provide any
 
supporting detail to that effect.  Moreover, what info he does provide focuses
 
just on the chariots.  And every other book or online source I've been able to
 
scrounge simply doesn't say one way or the other.
 
 
>The problem I encountered, then, was how other rules systems treated "foot
 
darts" for Assyrians.  I discovered all of them went ahead and let some
 
Assyrian foot have darts.  So I did the same except I limited it to certain
 
troop types.  I'm still not sanguine about that decision but it seemed a
 
reasonable compromise.  Biblical Warrior will be out next month so everybody
 
can look and critique:) :)
 
 
As for the Byzantines, many believe that as the successors to the
 
Roman armies, that they kept the darts in the arsenal.  This is
 
harder to prove with historical data.
 
 
>Some of the Byzantines in Dark Age Warrior will have darts, Byzantine foot
 
that is.  I defer to Paul Georgian on the broader historical perspective on
 
that sorta thing.
 
 
Scott
 
List Ho
 
 
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