Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Mark Stone]

Quoting "WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com" <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>:

> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:08:36 -0000
> From: "spocksleftball" <spocksleftball@...>
> Subject: Re: French Ordinance List
>
> Point taken Todd, though my plan is to run them in skirmish which
> means the shield is just extra points unused. LMI are shot for a 5 -
> 2 for skirmish, but they don't count as shielded if shooting back.
> The alternative with a sh is to hunker down and still take it on the
> chin at a 3; 12 LI hitting me at a 3 will do much danage, so better
> to shoot back with my 12@1. Perhaps this is flawed reasoning

Yes, it is flawed reasoning, on two counts:
(1) Suppose you take 2 CPF in prep while in skirmish (against any halfway decent
opponent you will). Now you are presumably going to recall, rather than take a
waver test with Ds. OK, so what do you do next bound? Next bound you won't be in
skirmish unless you counter. And your odds of making a counter... hmm, you're
still Ds.
(2) I don't think you'll do a lot of skirmishing with the close order LB. These
are just guys waiting to die. They are the absolute Achilles Heal of this list,
which otherwise would have some real potential. I've emailed before about how I
think these guys should be classified, but I wouldn't expect a change, or at
least not any time soon. As it stands, these guys doom the list.

If you insist on playing this list, put the crossbowmen in 2 24-man units
instead of 3 16-man units (see my previous post about the value of 6-stand
units), and buy shields for the front rank.

If you want a list that is Late Medieval, works on 1200 points, has much the
same feel as French Ordinnance, and isn't handicapped with required troops that
will lose the battle for you, then try Free Company.


-Mark Stone

[Kelly Wilkinson]

Or Scotts Common for that matter. Buttloads of Yeomen Crazy Highlanders and
allied Irg "A" French SHK can really spoil a Wargamer. Too bad Jamie Fish
doesn't play Warrior anymore, he would be drooling about now to play this list!

kelly

Mark Stone <mark@...> wrote:
Quoting "WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com" <WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com>:

> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 20:08:36 -0000
> From: "spocksleftball" <spocksleftball@...>
> Subject: Re: French Ordinance List
>
> Point taken Todd, though my plan is to run them in skirmish which
> means the shield is just extra points unused. LMI are shot for a 5 -
> 2 for skirmish, but they don't count as shielded if shooting back.
> The alternative with a sh is to hunker down and still take it on the
> chin at a 3; 12 LI hitting me at a 3 will do much danage, so better
> to shoot back with my 12@1. Perhaps this is flawed reasoning

Yes, it is flawed reasoning, on two counts:
(1) Suppose you take 2 CPF in prep while in skirmish (against any halfway decent
opponent you will). Now you are presumably going to recall, rather than take a
waver test with Ds. OK, so what do you do next bound? Next bound you won't be in
skirmish unless you counter. And your odds of making a counter... hmm, you're
still Ds.
(2) I don't think you'll do a lot of skirmishing with the close order LB. These
are just guys waiting to die. They are the absolute Achilles Heal of this list,
which otherwise would have some real potential. I've emailed before about how I
think these guys should be classified, but I wouldn't expect a change, or at
least not any time soon. As it stands, these guys doom the list.

If you insist on playing this list, put the crossbowmen in 2 24-man units
instead of 3 16-man units (see my previous post about the value of 6-stand
units), and buy shields for the front rank.

If you want a list that is Late Medieval, works on 1200 points, has much the
same feel as French Ordinnance, and isn't handicapped with required troops that
will lose the battle for you, then try Free Company.


-Mark Stone

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