Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[Greg Regets]

Please, my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth ... please do not take this
post the wrong way. It is only meant to offer the whole story.

I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is held,
but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes at a
very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season. We
have a handful of guys down here that are heavily involved in
football, both coaching and playing, and children that play. This was
a major contributing factor in the no-show from San Antonio for FWW
2003. I attended in 2002, only because I happened to have a very rare
bye that weekend.

I feel very confident that this thought has been expressed many
times. I know I have made several posts on this topic on the NASAMW-
SW Region message board. Quite frankly, I have no Earthly clue why
the people that run FWW, would even try to hold a CON in Texas,
during football season.

This is not unlike the tournament we had in San Antonio last weekend.
We knew that so close to Christmas, we should not expect many out-of-
towners. We were happy to have the ones we got (Kelly, Jon Garlic and
Bill Chriss), but were not disappointed that you guys could not make
it, and fully understood that December tournaments are usually poorly
attended as a general rule (at least down here).

I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future. You
have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the draw
you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW events
outside of Historicon.

If that were to happen, perhaps this whole thought of having a NICT
down here, would be workable. Having said that, I fully agree with
the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we ask
for some sort of committment.

Now, for the part that might be taken wrong. ;-)

Before this was the NASAMW SW Region, it was the Southwest Society of
Ancients, and after that the Lone Star Historical Miniatures Society.
Both of those groups were very large, and our TOG 6th & 7th events
were better attended than TOG at Historicon. We used to hold at least
five 40+ events a year in Austin. One of the major organizers at that
time was our own David Beeson, who was President of both groups at
one time or the other.

My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and for
the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience of
people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't hold a
tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!" ;-)

Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever we
want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
wondering why everyone isn't buying in!

Thank you for listening to my random rant. :-)

Greg

[Todd Schneider]

Greg,

And all of the Texas players….what does your October schedule look like?

Todd in KC

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:33 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules

Please, my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth ... please do not take this
post the wrong way. It is only meant to offer the whole story.

I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is held,
but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes at a
very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season. We
have a handful of guys down here that are heavily involved in
football, both coaching and playing, and children that play. This was
a major contributing factor in the no-show from San Antonio for FWW
2003. I attended in 2002, only because I happened to have a very rare
bye that weekend.

I feel very confident that this thought has been expressed many
times. I know I have made several posts on this topic on the NASAMW-
SW Region message board. Quite frankly, I have no Earthly clue why
the people that run FWW, would even try to hold a CON in Texas,
during football season.

This is not unlike the tournament we had in San Antonio last weekend.
We knew that so close to Christmas, we should not expect many out-of-
towners. We were happy to have the ones we got (Kelly, Jon Garlic and
Bill Chriss), but were not disappointed that you guys could not make
it, and fully understood that December tournaments are usually poorly
attended as a general rule (at least down here).

I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future. You
have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the draw
you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW events
outside of Historicon.

If that were to happen, perhaps this whole thought of having a NICT
down here, would be workable. Having said that, I fully agree with
the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we ask
for some sort of committment.

Now, for the part that might be taken wrong. ;-)

Before this was the NASAMW SW Region, it was the Southwest Society of
Ancients, and after that the Lone Star Historical Miniatures Society.
Both of those groups were very large, and our TOG 6th & 7th events
were better attended than TOG at Historicon. We used to hold at least
five 40+ events a year in Austin. One of the major organizers at that
time was our own David Beeson, who was President of both groups at
one time or the other.

My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and for
the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience of
people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't hold a
tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!" ;-)

Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever we
want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
wondering why everyone isn't buying in!

Thank you for listening to my random rant. :-)

Greg



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[Don Coon]

> I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is held,
> but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes at a
> very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season. I feel
very confident that this thought has been expressed >many
> times.

That is very true, and my posts at least were not intended as barbs towards
anyone or any place. Just a general sense of frustration.

> I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future. You
> have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the draw
> you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
> players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW events
> outside of Historicon.

I agree. Perhaps we just need to abandon the FWW idea and get a better (and
yearly consistant) weekend. It would be something you could mark on your
calenders way in advance and count on every year. As attendance grew and
word spread, it would have hopes of growing into a large reagional yearly
event.

> I fully agree with
> the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we ask
> for some sort of committment.

That is what we have been lacking on all Texas fronts.

> My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and for
> the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience of
> people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't hold a
> tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!" ;-)

No disagreement from me. Currently our Texas organization is fractured
badly. David in the times I have met him is not only a good arganizer, but
a good diplomat. It will probably take someone like that to rebuild.

> Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
> whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever we
> want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
> wondering why everyone isn't buying in!

I think you are right on with a minor execption. For three years we have
tried both Tcon and FWW as THE regional event. We may have choosen poorly
as the attendance numbers bore out, but we did select those events because
they were already yearly held. Its not so much a case of us doing what we
wanted as it was what we THOUGHT was best for the gaming community as a
whole. As for today however, your above para is dead on.

Our momentum in the DFW group has ground to a halt. We play in my kitchen
and at chez Bump or occasionaly chez Hudelot. We have no one up here with
any desire to try a tourny anymore.

Don

Don

[Kelly Wilkinson]

********************************************************************************\n***********************
Don Coon wrote:

Our momentum in the DFW group has ground to a halt. We play in my kitchen
and at chez Bump or occasionaly chez Hudelot. We have no one up here with
any desire to try a tourny anymore.

Don
********************************************************************************\n************************

Don,
I'm sorry to hear that no one in Dallas has any desire to play in
tournaments anymore. Speaking for Jack too here, and I'm sure he doesn't
mind me doing so, we have found Dallas and your crew down there to be a Super
group of guys to game with. Too bad you've lost your interest in competition
gaming with Warrior. Does this mean that you're going over to DBM? ;)

Kelly :)


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/21/2003 20:19:05 Central Standard Time, gar@...
writes:
If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
were always scheduled at least a year out.
I'd just tell you that spring, especially March, is generally a horrible
time. Established cons like Cold Wars and Genghis Con are settled in Feb and
March. I don't know about anyone else, but I would not (could not) especially
skip Cold Wars for a small regional tourney.
April is the only free month in the between Feb and June. Maybe you could
look at Martin Luther King weekend...

Or you could looseln your grip of football for Warrior a little bit. I know
you're a fanatic, but I think you are making a big assumption when you lump
all Texas warrior guys in the same category as you....lol What position did Don
play? :)


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[Greg Regets]

Historically, September, October and the first half of November are
very bad periods to hold a tournament if you want big attendance from
Texas folks.

On the flip side, any time after about mid-January all the way
through the summer is a great time. In the heart of winter has been
historically good, especially in South Texas, where we have
relatively nice winter weather.

If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
were always scheduled at least a year out.

Thanks ... g




--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Schneider"
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> And all of the Texas players….what does your October schedule look
like?
>
> Todd in KC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@t...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:33 PM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules
>
> Please, my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth ... please do not take this
> post the wrong way. It is only meant to offer the whole story.
>
> I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is
held,
> but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes at
a
> very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season. We
> have a handful of guys down here that are heavily involved in
> football, both coaching and playing, and children that play. This
was
> a major contributing factor in the no-show from San Antonio for FWW
> 2003. I attended in 2002, only because I happened to have a very
rare
> bye that weekend.
>
> I feel very confident that this thought has been expressed many
> times. I know I have made several posts on this topic on the NASAMW-
> SW Region message board. Quite frankly, I have no Earthly clue why
> the people that run FWW, would even try to hold a CON in Texas,
> during football season.
>
> This is not unlike the tournament we had in San Antonio last
weekend.
> We knew that so close to Christmas, we should not expect many out-
of-
> towners. We were happy to have the ones we got (Kelly, Jon Garlic
and
> Bill Chriss), but were not disappointed that you guys could not make
> it, and fully understood that December tournaments are usually
poorly
> attended as a general rule (at least down here).
>
> I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future.
You
> have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the
draw
> you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
> players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW events
> outside of Historicon.
>
> If that were to happen, perhaps this whole thought of having a NICT
> down here, would be workable. Having said that, I fully agree with
> the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we ask
> for some sort of committment.
>
> Now, for the part that might be taken wrong.
>
> Before this was the NASAMW SW Region, it was the Southwest Society
of
> Ancients, and after that the Lone Star Historical Miniatures
Society.
> Both of those groups were very large, and our TOG 6th & 7th events
> were better attended than TOG at Historicon. We used to hold at
least
> five 40+ events a year in Austin. One of the major organizers at
that
> time was our own David Beeson, who was President of both groups at
> one time or the other.
>
> My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and for
> the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience of
> people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't hold
a
> tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!"
>
> Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
> whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever we
> want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
> wondering why everyone isn't buying in!
>
> Thank you for listening to my random rant.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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[Todd Schneider]

Call to Arms in Kansas City is 30th April-2 May here in Kansas City. I am
not sure where it’s going to be held, but if I were to run a 1200 point
Open, how many people from outside of KC might be able to come.

As of now, Jon was planning to put on a Roman theme Fast Warrior event to
tie in the release of Imperial Warrior, but if enough people commit, he
could change that.

Todd



-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:18 PM
To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules

Historically, September, October and the first half of November are
very bad periods to hold a tournament if you want big attendance from
Texas folks.

On the flip side, any time after about mid-January all the way
through the summer is a great time. In the heart of winter has been
historically good, especially in South Texas, where we have
relatively nice winter weather.

If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
were always scheduled at least a year out.

Thanks ... g




--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Schneider"
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> Greg,
>
> And all of the Texas players….what does your October schedule look
like?
>
> Todd in KC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@t...]
> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:33 PM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules
>
> Please, my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth ... please do not take this
> post the wrong way. It is only meant to offer the whole story.
>
> I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is
held,
> but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes at
a
> very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season. We
> have a handful of guys down here that are heavily involved in
> football, both coaching and playing, and children that play. This
was
> a major contributing factor in the no-show from San Antonio for FWW
> 2003. I attended in 2002, only because I happened to have a very
rare
> bye that weekend.
>
> I feel very confident that this thought has been expressed many
> times. I know I have made several posts on this topic on the NASAMW-
> SW Region message board. Quite frankly, I have no Earthly clue why
> the people that run FWW, would even try to hold a CON in Texas,
> during football season.
>
> This is not unlike the tournament we had in San Antonio last
weekend.
> We knew that so close to Christmas, we should not expect many out-
of-
> towners. We were happy to have the ones we got (Kelly, Jon Garlic
and
> Bill Chriss), but were not disappointed that you guys could not make
> it, and fully understood that December tournaments are usually
poorly
> attended as a general rule (at least down here).
>
> I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future.
You
> have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the
draw
> you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
> players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW events
> outside of Historicon.
>
> If that were to happen, perhaps this whole thought of having a NICT
> down here, would be workable. Having said that, I fully agree with
> the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we ask
> for some sort of committment.
>
> Now, for the part that might be taken wrong.
>
> Before this was the NASAMW SW Region, it was the Southwest Society
of
> Ancients, and after that the Lone Star Historical Miniatures
Society.
> Both of those groups were very large, and our TOG 6th & 7th events
> were better attended than TOG at Historicon. We used to hold at
least
> five 40+ events a year in Austin. One of the major organizers at
that
> time was our own David Beeson, who was President of both groups at
> one time or the other.
>
> My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and for
> the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience of
> people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't hold
a
> tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!"
>
> Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
> whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever we
> want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
> wondering why everyone isn't buying in!
>
> Thank you for listening to my random rant.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
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>
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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/22/2003 05:41:02 Central Standard Time,
jjendon@... writes:
If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
were always scheduled at least a year out.

Tcon is in March.
Far in advance is key. It's competing with Cold Wars that is the issue...lol


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/22/2003 08:03:35 Central Standard Time, gar@...
writes:
That's a very good time for me. I would very much enjoy playing in a
1200 point open, or something such.

KC is an easy trip. They have a direct flight to and from DFW and San
Antonio.

Are we talking 25mm or 15mm for the open?
I would change May from Fast Warrior to 1000 or 1200 to get people to come.
But I am the only player here with a full 25mm army, so it will be a while
before we can do 25mm.


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/22/2003 09:45:13 Central Standard Time,
Scott.Holder@... writes:
>Um, although I don't live "here", I do live in the general 3 hour vicinity
of "here" And I have a bazillion 25mm armies. That being said, if we do
something like this, it really should be in 15mm--that enables the local base
to fully participate with armies of their liking and choosing, makes it
easier for those traveling by air (easier psychologically I guess), and broadens
the potential player base. I mean any 25mm player has something in 15mm just to
slum with the little folks:) But the same in reverse isn't usually true.
I used to subscribe to the idea that a player with a lot of armies in 25
could just bring them and we'd get a lot of people playing 25mm that way. I do
not anymore. The players I have recruited chose 15mm for various very logical
reasons and they generally want to play with the armies they painted and not
someone's leavings. Those who are perennially figure-whores may not care what
they play with, but the guys who do take the time to collect and paint their
own armies should be supported in that scale and not coerced into another with
borrowed lead, especially when loaners are often substandard and patchwork.

That means 15mm here in KC for the forseeable future.


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[joncleaves]

In a message dated 12/22/2003 10:37:33 Central Standard Time,
Scott.Holder@... writes:
>I'm a figure whore? Hee hee and I thought it was simply a short attention
span.
No, you;re just a hwore. A figure whore is someone who plays but doesn't
ever quite get an army of his own done... not that there's anyone like that in
KC, mind you...lol
My figures and armies are not "leavings" btw. Whenever I offer up my
collection, I do so with no intention to play, thus maximizing whatever folks
might
want to utilize. I don't know too many folks willing to haul half a dozen or
more 25mm armies for people to use.
Scott, the quality of painters I am with is such that pretty much any
borrowed army is 'leavings' from a quality of presentation point of view. These
guys
have generally pushed beyond simple game-quality paint and basing and just
about every army they do is a paint award contender.

That is something to be fully encouraged, as you know.


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[Don Coon]

> Our momentum in the DFW group has ground to a halt. We play in my kitchen
> and at chez Bump or occasionaly chez Hudelot. We have no one up here with
> any desire to try a tourny anymore.
>
> Don

> Don,
> I'm sorry to hear that no one in Dallas has any desire to play in
tournaments anymore. Speaking for Jack too here, and I'm sure he doesn't
mind me doing so, we have found Dallas and your crew down there to be a
Super group of guys to game with. Too bad you've lost your interest in
competition gaming with Warrior. Does this mean that you're going over to
DBM?
>
> Kelly :)

No no. I may have choosen my words poorly (I used 'try' not 'play', but
should have used 'run'). We still will play, we just do not want to run
them. With KC 8 hours away, and SA 5 hours away, I will still play a few,
but right now I am whipped as far as getting one together. The passage of
time will certainly change that too .

Don

[Don Coon]

If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
were always scheduled at least a year out.

Tcon is in March.

Don

[Don Coon]

> March. I don't know about anyone else, but I would not (could not)
especially
> skip Cold Wars for a small regional tourney.
> April is the only free month in the between Feb and June. Maybe you could
> look at Martin Luther King weekend...

I remember that is why you could not come to Tcon last year. It was in the
middle of your busiest time.

>
> Or you could looseln your grip of football for Warrior a little bit. I
know
> you're a fanatic, but I think you are making a big assumption when you
lump
> all Texas warrior guys in the same category as you....lol What position
did Don
> play? :)

Split end. I was tiny too (5'1" and 98 pounds!).

Don

[Greg Regets]

That's a very good time for me. I would very much enjoy playing in a
1200 point open, or something such.

KC is an easy trip. They have a direct flight to and from DFW and San
Antonio.

Are we talking 25mm or 15mm for the open?

Thanks ... g


--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Schneider"
<thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> Call to Arms in Kansas City is 30th April-2 May here in Kansas
City. I am
> not sure where it's going to be held, but if I were to run a 1200
point
> Open, how many people from outside of KC might be able to come.
>
> As of now, Jon was planning to put on a Roman theme Fast Warrior
event to
> tie in the release of Imperial Warrior, but if enough people
commit, he
> could change that.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@t...]
> Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2003 8:18 PM
> To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [WarriorRules] Re: Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules
>
> Historically, September, October and the first half of November are
> very bad periods to hold a tournament if you want big attendance
from
> Texas folks.
>
> On the flip side, any time after about mid-January all the way
> through the summer is a great time. In the heart of winter has been
> historically good, especially in South Texas, where we have
> relatively nice winter weather.
>
> If I wanted to hold a high attendance tournament in this area, I
> would probably pick mid to late March, and schedule it FAR in
> advance. That was the big key to the old groups - the tournaments
> were always scheduled at least a year out.
>
> Thanks ... g
>
>
>
>
> --- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, "Todd Schneider"
> <thresh1642@s...> wrote:
> > Greg,
> >
> > And all of the Texas players….what does your October schedule look
> like?
> >
> > Todd in KC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg Regets [mailto:gar@t...]
> > Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 9:33 PM
> > To: WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [WarriorRules] Fort Worth Wars & Tournament Schedules
> >
> > Please, my friends in Dallas/Ft. Worth ... please do not take this
> > post the wrong way. It is only meant to offer the whole story.
> >
> > I know the DFW group has no control over when Ft. Worth Wars is
> held,
> > but from the point of view of most San Antonio players, it comes
at
> a
> > very bad time, that being right in the middle of football season.
We
> > have a handful of guys down here that are heavily involved in
> > football, both coaching and playing, and children that play. This
> was
> > a major contributing factor in the no-show from San Antonio for
FWW
> > 2003. I attended in 2002, only because I happened to have a very
> rare
> > bye that weekend.
> >
> > I feel very confident that this thought has been expressed many
> > times. I know I have made several posts on this topic on the
NASAMW-
> > SW Region message board. Quite frankly, I have no Earthly clue why
> > the people that run FWW, would even try to hold a CON in Texas,
> > during football season.
> >
> > This is not unlike the tournament we had in San Antonio last
> weekend.
> > We knew that so close to Christmas, we should not expect many out-
> of-
> > towners. We were happy to have the ones we got (Kelly, Jon Garlic
> and
> > Bill Chriss), but were not disappointed that you guys could not
make
> > it, and fully understood that December tournaments are usually
> poorly
> > attended as a general rule (at least down here).
> >
> > I think we could do a big show in Dallas some time in the future.
> You
> > have a wonderful venue and are centrally located. Looking at the
> draw
> > you had for your last tournament, if you added the San Antonio
> > players to that draw, you would have one of the larger NASAMW
events
> > outside of Historicon.
> >
> > If that were to happen, perhaps this whole thought of having a
NICT
> > down here, would be workable. Having said that, I fully agree with
> > the thought that we have to show our attendence FIRST, before we
ask
> > for some sort of committment.
> >
> > Now, for the part that might be taken wrong.
> >
> > Before this was the NASAMW SW Region, it was the Southwest Society
> of
> > Ancients, and after that the Lone Star Historical Miniatures
> Society.
> > Both of those groups were very large, and our TOG 6th & 7th events
> > were better attended than TOG at Historicon. We used to hold at
> least
> > five 40+ events a year in Austin. One of the major organizers at
> that
> > time was our own David Beeson, who was President of both groups at
> > one time or the other.
> >
> > My honest opinion is our group should try to work together, and
for
> > the love of God, take advantage of the organizational experience
of
> > people like David, who can tell you little things like, "Don't
hold
> a
> > tournament during football season, and expect good attendence!" ;-
)
> >
> > Speaking very bluntly, it seems like right now the DFW group does
> > whatever they want to do, and our South Texas group does whatever
we
> > want to do, and both groups end up throwing up their hands and
> > wondering why everyone isn't buying in!
> >
> > Thank you for listening to my random rant.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
> >
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