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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:28 pm    Post subject: maniple approach to hoplites |  |  
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				| Here is yet a different approach to running the L.Hoplite list.  It is based
 upon the discussion here.  Please remember, I'm trying to run an otherwise
 worthless tournament army to win, so I've set extreme goals for myself.  will it
 ever work, I doubt it.  But I entend on having fun while trying to "polish a
 turd" :)
 
 Please feel free to make any commentary, as it is all helpful.
 
 In this manifestation of the hoplites, I am leaning towards the manaple theory.
 I will have less resistence, but I gain much greater ability to act and react
 situationally.  The LC remain in the list simply to allow me some form of rapid
 response reserve.  The MI and LMI are arrayed in checkerboard interspersed and
 all starting in column with 120p between MI columns.  On each end of the
 battleline, I have another unit of MI to act as flank deterent.  I will use the
 LI to kill off enemy LI, as J/sh LI tend to crush B and S armed opponants
 charging prompted out of skirmish.  I upgraded everyone to "b" to lessen unease.
 
 CNC RgC HC J 116
 
 2E RgC LC J 34
 
 2E RgC LC J 34
 
 7x 4E RgB MI LTS/sh
 
 3x 4E RgB LMI LTS/J/sh
 
 8E IrgC LI J/sh
 
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		| joncleaves Moderator
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: maniple approach to hoplites |  |  
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				| With the LC in reserve, you have a 24 element frontage.  There doesn't seem to
 be enough likelihood that you'll get enough blocking terrain to prevent your
 flanks from getting turned.
 
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		| scott holder Moderator
 
  
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 5:46 pm    Post subject: RE: maniple approach to hoplites |  |  
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				| With the LC in reserve, you have a 24 element frontage.  There doesn't seem to
 be enough likelihood that you'll get enough blocking terrain to prevent your
 flanks from getting turned.
 
 >And, you still have no punch or counterpunch.  I'd prefer some Spanish or Gauls
 as a counterpunching force but this plays into Jon's thoughts regarding your
 ability to get enough blocking terrain.  Plus, your chances of playing against
 Dry armies is fairly low, hence, no +1 for the terrain rolls which you'll need
 for the blocking terrain Jon mentions.  Even if you pull a Warm opponent, he
 *might* be able to plop enough clear down you your side of the table to cause
 problems.
 
 >As one who is notorious for playing armies the require flank holding/blocking
 terrain armies, I can attest to the problems one encounters when playing on a
 billiard table.  And if you then revert to the "hunker down" defense out their
 on that vast and painfully open battlefield, you're back to where you started,
 i.e., conceeding all initiative to the opponent who has a target rich
 environment.
 
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