Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/16/2005 18:26:43 Central Standard Time,
rockd@... writes:

I want to resurrect this to find out what the revised rulebook will
say. Are you going to allow the option of 60 or 80mm depth? I have
a number of Irregular chariots which have always been based 60x60.>>

I am not changing that text. You can have a deeper base if you like.

Jon




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[Doug]

I want to resurrect this to find out what the revised rulebook will
say. Are you going to allow the option of 60 or 80mm depth? I have
a number of Irregular chariots which have always been based 60x60.


>Jon, to quote from the current rulebook, page 12, 2.512 Element Bases:
>
>Figure Scale 25mm
>Frontage (all) 60mm
>Depth for Elephants, Chariots, Expendables: 80mm.
>
>80mm > 60mm. This is in the rulebook. In black and white. I, and others,
>do not do it to make the "figures fit". We do it because the rules say that
>we have to.
>
>Please please tell me that the new printing doesn't change the base size for
>elephants/chariots/expendables in 25mm to 60mmx60mm. Please...
>
>And, for everybody else, a clarification has been made by the Fourhorsemen
>about how the rule should read. It states that a flank cannot be contacted
>by more elements frontage than it's depth in elements, and only elements
>that contact the enemy flank other than corner to corner count as in
>contact. A ruling has been made, this topic should how be closed.
>
>Michael Bard
>That Greek Hoplite Guy
>
>> Yes, it is still just one element and has to be played like it is 60mm.
>>
>> J


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[John Garlic]

What is freezing?

John Garlic
South Texas :-)

In a message dated 11/19/2005 2:07:26 AM Central Standard Time,
rockd@... writes:
n.b. : It went below freezing in the daytime today, so for the next
few months I'll probably have _two_ of them on my lap, and its just
not physically possible to heave myself up with that many claws
holding me down :)


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[Doug]

Great -- but the rules _require_ 80. No mention of optionally 60. I
even kicked the cat off my lap to go check.

Oh, do you want them to recoil "as based" or a specific distance?

n.b. : It went below freezing in the daytime today, so for the next
few months I'll probably have _two_ of them on my lap, and its just
not physically possible to heave myself up with that many claws
holding me down :)

>Are you going to allow the option of 60 or 80mm depth? I have
>a number of Irregular chariots which have always been based 60x60.>>
>
>I am not changing that text. You can have a deeper base if you like.
>
>Jon

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/19/2005 02:07:32 Central Standard Time,
rockd@... writes:

Great -- but the rules _require_ 80. No mention of optionally 60. I
even kicked the cat off my lap to go check.>>
This is a chariot you *want* on a 60mm base?



Oh, do you want them to recoil "as based" or a specific distance?>>
Recoils are only ever 40 paces. Doesn't matter how deep the element is.

J





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[Doug]

rockd@... writes:
Great -- but the rules _require_ 80. No mention of optionally 60.
>>
>This is a chariot you *want* on a 60mm base?
>J

Bases are deeper than scale so why go deeper than necessary?
What's advantageous about deeper bases?

[joncleaves]

In a message dated 11/20/2005 03:13:17 Central Standard Time,
rockd@... writes:

What's advantageous about deeper bases?>>
Fitting the model and its horses on it.

Jon




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[John Garlic]

There is one problem with deeper bases, however. I have deeper bases for my
Late Hebrew and Han chariots and they are the devil to maneuver in tight
spaces. There have been a couple times when being on a deeper base made a
difference in what I was able to do or not do. I am looking to rebase to cram
figures
in tighter.

John Garlic

In a message dated 11/20/2005 9:28:50 AM Central Standard Time,
JonCleaves@... writes:
In a message dated 11/20/2005 03:13:17 Central Standard Time,
rockd@... writes:

What's advantageous about deeper bases?>>
Fitting the model and its horses on it.

Jon


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[Chris Bump]

There are a variety of ways to ensure that your figures fit the
base. I have not worked with true 30mm figs but have been able to
fit the 28's on the various required bases with a little forsight and
willingness to look at the bigger picture.

I have written before about fitting OG and Foundry Cat's 4 to a
base. it can be done and they don't even have to be staggered. I am
optimistic that if you use some of the modeling skills from your
youth you can find a way to "modify" the model to fit the desired
dimensions of the regulation sized base. The first thing that comes
to mind is to shorten the lenght of the center post of the horse
harnesses. This will draw the horses closer to the chariot but also
save on depth. Use clippers to snip off the front and rear edges of
the bases on the horses. This will also save a few mm on each side.
Model the model before mounting any part of it on the base. maneuver
horses around to see which will fit the outside edges better.
Just some random thoughts, but I am confident that most on this site
are creative enough to figure it out- if they really want to.
Then again, I have been wrong before and the figs may just not fit.
Chris

--- In WarriorRules@yahoogroups.com, jmgarlic@a... wrote:
>
> There is one problem with deeper bases, however. I have deeper
bases for my
> Late Hebrew and Han chariots and they are the devil to maneuver in
tight
> spaces. There have been a couple times when being on a deeper base
made a
> difference in what I was able to do or not do. I am looking to
rebase to cram figures
> in tighter.
>
> John Garlic
>
> In a message dated 11/20/2005 9:28:50 AM Central Standard Time,
> JonCleaves@a... writes:
> In a message dated 11/20/2005 03:13:17 Central Standard Time,
> rockd@p... writes:
>
> What's advantageous about deeper bases?>>
> Fitting the model and its horses on it.
>
> Jon
>
>
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>