Warrior Ancient and Medieval Rules

[scott holder]

Link to download:

https://www.wargamevault.com/product/271681/Holy-Warrior

scott

[lilroblis]

Wow - some really good lists in here - expect to see a bunch at Historicon

[Frank Gilson]

Please make sure to thank Scott and Bill for all of their work.

[jamiepwhite]

Thank you Scott and Bill for all your hard work.

On Steve's Gym the hot discussion is later Ottoman Turks and whether this is the new wonder list.

[Frank Gilson]

[lilroblis]

I think you will see a lot of it - very good list - and with ditched palisades in forward sectors - large numbers of artillery are doable

[Frank Gilson]

[Ed Kollmer]

Well the Later Ottoman have been getting a lot of attention around here.
Hummmmmm........

[Todd Kaeser]

With great appreciation for all your hard work on the lists 4 Horsemen!

Todd

[Mark Stone]

Quick first impressions:

I like the handling of Military Order knights in the crusader lists. I think this is the balanced approach to these unusual troops, and it makes their associated lists more interesting.

Also interesting to see more elephants showing up on Seljuq and Khwarizmian. On balance I think that's a good thing, giving some important armies historically more versatility in how they can be played.

And thanks for making the Varangians consistently implemented across all the Byzantine lists. I'm not sure that Varangians existed in suitable numbers by the very end of the Later Paeleologan period, but history is uncertain and some sort of guard troops trained in that manner, if not literal Norsemen, may well have existed to the very end.

For the min-maxers amongst us -

Lists that got A LOT better:
* Early Paeleologan Byzantine
* Later Paeleologan Byzantine
* Later Crusader
* Catalan Company
* Albanian
* Later Ottoman Turk
* Seljuq Turk

Lists that got subtly but importantly better:
* Later Hungarian
* Wallachian/Moldavian
* Fatimid Egyptian
* Khwarizmian

[lilroblis]

I would agree with the list of improvements - I think as a whole we got 2-5 new A lists and some A lists got better- my Janissaries will probably now see the table - I think Ottoman with 2 elements of ditched palisade in the forward sectors ha sthe potential to run over any non shooting list - just by the volume and quality of fire power and cavalry - you deploy first they pick their spot and have more firepower than any other list in the game - against non shooters - I think Mesos may give them fits - bit not at all sure of that

[lightinfa]

So if I'm reading this right early Nikephorians no longer have the option to downgrade their Kavallarioi to Ds.

[Frank Gilson]

[lilroblis]

Love the format as much as the book - easy to read - appreciate all the hard work

[lightinfa]