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No Irr E Levy Spearmen?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:05 pm    Post subject: No Irr E Levy Spearmen?

I was looking at Feudal Warrior recently and noticed that there aren't any Irr E "levy spearmen"--all Irr E troops are armed with IPW.

So I wanted to check the reasoning...I am guessing that since the untrained peasants aren't wielding their spears properly, they don't count as spearmen, or even javelinmen, and their spears aren't any more effective than IPW...is that more or less correct?

On the other hand, the Irr D spearmen in the lists are presumably troops that have been trained--albeit poorly--in use of their spears, and moreover are not very motivated...like a typical town militia.

Also, I wanted to check my understanding of how they are treated as elements--it looks like all/most Irr E elements are treated as LMI, at three figures per base, is that correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:10 pm    Post subject: Irr E's

Hi there!

I can't speak to the historical intentions of list(s) as I didn't write them but I would imagine this is a list-specific decision as there certainly are Irr E LMI armed with B, JLS, Sh, etc. And yes, you are correct in that Irr E troops are always loose order, so 3 to a stand 40mm deep (see 2.21).

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Irr E's

Ben M wrote:
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...I would imagine this is a list-specific decision as there certainly are Irr E LMI armed with B, JLS, Sh, etc.


Thanks for the feedback. Your comment about Irr JLS, etc is interesting, because I only have Feudal Warrior, and in it almost all lists are confined to IPW, and to get shields or JLS they need to first upgrade to Irr D.

A couple of Scottish and German lists allow for Irr E with other weapons, including 2HCW, B, or JLS, but otherwise all Irr E have IPW.
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